Is SP a modern disorder?
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Anonymous
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I often pondered the same exact thing myself, Shep! One would think it's been around as long as life.... but I imagine it was just considered shyness, or backwardness in the "olden days" I suppose if you'd do some major research on it at the library, a lot would come up, but likely under the headings I previously mentioned along with maybe "withdrawn". I can bet there were plenty of people that didn't attend the 'sock hops', 'square dances', etc.! I can even picture the cave dweller dreading the big hunt or kill along with the others, loathing & questioning his feelings of difference.
Anonymous
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how funny shep, i was just talking with my hubby about that yesterday. See, i've been thinking of how at my age, it's not so awful bad to have this cause i can just "not do" things that in my younger years, i had to do to survive..ie work! :wink: It's still very,VERY painful to do some things sometimes, but again, i can usually adjust my day without much disturbance on anyone else. Well, that's a bit off topic, but it's what makes me reflect on how i had always pecieved myself growing up. Shy, painfully shy, and so gosh awful sensitive. It made me laugh so much when "guest" said about caveman stuff cause it's a picture i was picturing just yesterday. How funny to me that we have these similar thoughts. Is it the stresses of "these days" that is causing so much SA or is it just that we are more intuned to it happening cause we now know what it is we have so notice it more. I tell ya, when i found out what the heck was going on with me, i got extremly withdrawn and WORSE cause i thought now people are gonna read this problem i have and that was so scarry. Now, i find that it's opened up my family to chat about it and have found that it's sort of a gene thing with us.(or at least quite common) Well, geesh, dont know where all that came from. I get jabbering and, well, my mixed up thoughts come out all over the place so hope this makes ANY sense 
But it feels good to say it so I did...... :? i think
But it feels good to say it so I did...... :? i think
Anonymous
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Heya Scardecat! If you had to chuckle at the cave dweller concept.... wait 'til I 'fess up' on this one... novice Christian... I belive in God & that Jesus died for our sins... I've learned a few things, but still have a LOT to learn.... & I've pondered the 'after life' and if I am fortunate enough to make it through the 'pearly gates'..... now, I know that there is no sorrow, pain, or suffering in Heaven, but...... what, just what IF I end up feeling 'different' from the other fortunate souls that made it there and I end up being afraid of the other souls!!!!! If that would be 'everlasting life'.... yikes, STRICTLY no offense & at risk of seeming ungateful to my Heavenly Father, but I rather not, NOT that I want the other alternative EITHER.... I just rather be NOWHERE... :lol:
Alternator
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Well it definitely has been around for quite some time, but I dont think it'd go as far as the caveman days! Thats still a pretty funny concept. Of course with all the pressures of today's society and the media, SAD is a lot more common. I mean, I see all this stuff going on on reality tv and mtv spring break, and I cant help but think, "man, I should be doing that stuff!". And then you know how the cycle goes, you pressure yourself to do these things, making the anxiety even stronger......
anyways I'm rambling now.....
anyways I'm rambling now.....
shep
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Thanks for your thoughts on this. I was so surprised to find that so many people have sp after I found these sites so I wondered if there has been a significant increase in recent times compared to a hundred years ago or more. I'm sure it has been around for a long time and the thought of a shy caveman is amusing to imagine. Anyway, somehow I sense that there are many more in recent times (the last 50 years or so) than before. Also, these sites seem to be loaded with young people so I'm beginning to think that something strange is happening as the years pass. :roll:
Anonymous
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Yea, i think too that things are mabie just a bit too stressfull these days. too much input so that even if your not basicly a shy type, you can just get toooooo much outside pressures. And,,,,,,back to the cave man and or heaven comments...I had to laugh somemore cause i've thought before if i could get a place "up there" of my own i'd be happest..lol but then, i think of my hubby, kids, dogs,,,,oh, and my heavenly father that i'd like to have around so guess im not wanting to be THAT alone, just no
)))scarry((((( people.. :wink: geesh, id think at my age i'd have gotton over all that.. oh well, im ok, at least right this moment :lol:
)))scarry((((( people.. :wink: geesh, id think at my age i'd have gotton over all that.. oh well, im ok, at least right this moment :lol:
Anonymous
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social phobia around forever
SP has been around for at least as long as there has been anyone to notice and write about it. Hippocrates described a man who "through bashfulness, suspicion, and timorousness will not be seen abroad...He dare not come in company for fear he should be misused, disgraced, overshoot himself in gesture or speeches, or be sick: he thinks every man observes him, aims at him, derides him, owes him malice." That was probably written around the year 460 B.C. So, yes, I'm sure there were extremely shy cavemen and cavewomen. As much a part of human nature as boldness. But it's also thought that social phobia and agoraphobia are on the rise--partially because with technology it's that much easier to avoid people, public spaces, the streets, etc... And with more info out there, people are better able to diagnose themselves. Some one who had SP twenty five years ago, didn't have any name for it. Except "wallflower"; one of my grandfather's favorite words. :wink:
Kat
SP has been around for at least as long as there has been anyone to notice and write about it. Hippocrates described a man who "through bashfulness, suspicion, and timorousness will not be seen abroad...He dare not come in company for fear he should be misused, disgraced, overshoot himself in gesture or speeches, or be sick: he thinks every man observes him, aims at him, derides him, owes him malice." That was probably written around the year 460 B.C. So, yes, I'm sure there were extremely shy cavemen and cavewomen. As much a part of human nature as boldness. But it's also thought that social phobia and agoraphobia are on the rise--partially because with technology it's that much easier to avoid people, public spaces, the streets, etc... And with more info out there, people are better able to diagnose themselves. Some one who had SP twenty five years ago, didn't have any name for it. Except "wallflower"; one of my grandfather's favorite words. :wink:
Kat
Zarrix
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It would of always existed, but we have only classified it in the last 20-30 years (1980 I think was the year though). Although the world changes, the mix of personalities and fears remains identical. A sufferer though would of been simply assumed as shy until very recently though. To a certain extent, thats how society still sees us.
It would of been a lot worse for me to live 20-30 years ago, when culture
encouraged socialising during the 60's and 70's. It isn't anywhere near as bad today, of course it is still encouraged to a certain extent, but staying at home, rather than going out every night of the week is accepted by many. A little thing called the internet
It would of been a lot worse for me to live 20-30 years ago, when culture
encouraged socialising during the 60's and 70's. It isn't anywhere near as bad today, of course it is still encouraged to a certain extent, but staying at home, rather than going out every night of the week is accepted by many. A little thing called the internet
alter_ego
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Re: social phobia around forever
Wow, it's incredible to think it goes as far back as that! I somehow thought people would be too busy trying to survive in those days to worry about what anyone thought, but the Ancient Greeks (I think Hippocrates was Ancient Greek? ) were more civilized than the most of the world.
I was wondering...do you think social phobia is soley a people "illness" or does anyone think it's possible animals fear each other as well? I don't mean as in fear of some animal that's going to kill them :roll: (that'd be a natural fear!) I mean, as in just being...uh...shy of similar species?
kat said:
Wow, it's incredible to think it goes as far back as that! I somehow thought people would be too busy trying to survive in those days to worry about what anyone thought, but the Ancient Greeks (I think Hippocrates was Ancient Greek? ) were more civilized than the most of the world.
I was wondering...do you think social phobia is soley a people "illness" or does anyone think it's possible animals fear each other as well? I don't mean as in fear of some animal that's going to kill them :roll: (that'd be a natural fear!) I mean, as in just being...uh...shy of similar species?