Is love-shynes just a form or another condition? Why yes? Why no?

So, this is my first real post...

From what I've read here and some other places, comes around the debate if love-shyness it's a condition by itself or just a form af another condition (SAD AvPD, Asperger's...). I don't think that we should focus in the mistakes of Brian Gilmartin (the proposer of the concept) like the astrology mumble jumble or the rigurosity of his investigation. I think that our arguments should come from our personal experiences, and if someone with the appropiate professional formation could give us opinions, welcome then.

First, gotta say I haven't been diagnosed by a professional, so I don't know if my case matches with a recognized condition. I think I'm love shy as I've never had a girlfriend, because I've been too afraid too aproach to a woman or just start a conversation if I don't feel that I have a "real" exuse, like job or study (in the case of study, I can't came up with that classic plot to ask for help to a girl I like with some subject, even if I do need someone to explain me, because the whole thing seems too obvious to me). So at 22, I've never even kissed a girl, and the las time I had a female friend was when I was 5. I can't tell you about my experiences being aproached by women, because if someone did sometime show interest in me, I wasn't aware due to my lack of social skills, also, where I live the women who aproaches the guy are 1 in a million.

Around men I'm shy but there's nothig severe, I can manage to socialize, not like the soul of the party (well, I don't go to parties) but not an outsider neither. When I feel that I have a real excuse there's no problem with me, I've worked succesfully as a saleman, to the point of selling clothing to very beautiful women; I was a bit nervous, but I'll say I was as nervous as most people is when they socialize.

The thing is that there are guys (and gals) like me who have this very specific extreme shyness which only affects us when it comes to the people we are romantically interested in. So, is this love-shyness, a condition waiting for serious research, recognition and treatments, or something else?

I'm listening...
 

PapaSmurf

Active member
Im the same way.

For me, the problem is im afraid that if i open myself up and express my feeling towards a girl, that leaves me vulnerable to rejection which is something i fear.

I dont like talking about myself or having people over to my house because i feel if i let people into my bubble they will mock and humiliate me. This is also the reason why i dont belong to any online social networks or never tell anyone about my birthday or even celebrate it. Things like facebook and myspace are all about you and i dont want people looking at my life or my feelings even if its over the internet. I dont have freinds over because i think they will judge my stuff and i always feel too pressured to entertain.

Dealing with someone your romantically interested in is especially hard because in order to have a romantic relationship you have to expose yourself on a personal level and express feelings which is something i dont do.

Dealing with freinds can be easier because u dont have to open yourself up as much as you do when with a romantic partner.

Do you express your feelings?
Do you feel comfortable opening up to people even if you are not looking for romance with them?

I cant express feelings because that leaves me vulnerable to humiliation and i dont want people to know how i live/feel mybe you feel similar.

Romantic relationships are different from any other in that they require a level of openness and vulnerability that other relationships simply dont. This could explain being shy around romantic interest but not so much others.
 
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Do you express your feelings?
Do you feel comfortable opening up to people even if you are not looking for romance with them?

I cant express feelings because that leaves me vulnerable to humiliation and i dont want people to know how i live/feel mybe you feel similar.

No, I don't express my feelings. I don't have too many people to express my feelings towards them anyway, and thankfully they barely ask me about them. I gues that I don't trust anyone in person to that level of open up.
 

Deus_Ex_Lemur

Well-known member
I am biased against love-shy because I think it's SAD basically or lighter cases just shyness. I can express myself easier around "friends" still tough, but far tougher around girls I'd like. That's still SA. It can be "love-shy" too but imo For papa also say he doesn't have friends over for pressure they'll judge or you have to entertain...

Focus for many may be romantic - some ppl have small close group friends, or etc. Doesnt mean its love shy only. But I have my issues with Gilmartin so Im not objective =D

Either way you are extremely "shy" in some aspect - you can gain far more by looking at info re: SAD and even AvPD which would benefit if you just did have "love-shyness".
 
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