inner peace...

no1

Banned
how can you true inner peace? to have gratitude for EVERYTHING the way it is? maybe I just don't get it.

When something I dont particularly like happens, I tend to reject it, and perhaps everything else as if it was connected to everything else. I read all the time about having unconditional love. I get confused.. how am I supposed to love what is happening that is "wrong" in my mind? It sounds like I have to LIKE all the wrong things. Does this mean to become masochistic?

I know.. perhaps not. I know.. true unconditional love means to just ACCEPT things as they are. I logically, or rationally accept things as they are simply because they exist. But to FEEL good about everything? I know we must accept things to be able to move on. I do.. or at least I think I do, and I try as much as I can to do just that, so I can move on, and perhaps become "integrated" into "life" as it is. Still, how does one feel that good feeling people get when they feel "gratitude" for everything, as well as all the bad that has happened in this world? Does that mean that I will also seek negativity?

It's kind of paradoxical. Maybe acceptance is not supposed to feel like anything. Still HOW are people able to achieve inner peace while they are feeling uncontrollable physical pain?

I'm just..........

I'm trying. I'm trying to have gratitude I really am. I love everything! No I don't. YES I DO! NO I DON"T YES I DO!
(thinks others are thinking I'm just stupid)
 

runaway

Member
i guess true inner peace is the acceptance of the bad things and the bad feelings that come along with them, would i be right in saying you don't want the bad feelings when bad things happen? This would be denying your nature, maybe try just feeling the bad feelings without shaking them, feel them for what they are and accept them. If you decide to accept problems, are they problems any more?
 

no12

Banned
well I do accept them it just naturally drives me crazy. pain is supposed to hurt, and make you feel like running all over the place because it's naturally stimulating but you can't do a damn thing about it .

and then people see me going crazy over pain, and tell me to accept it but i already accept it, it just naturally drives me crazy and I can't do anything about it (when I can't anyways).
 

ouroboros

Member
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I'm sure unconditional love starts with learning to love yourself. And I think this starts with our thoughts. We give birth to our thoughts, they're like our kids, and we need to love them like a loving parent loves their children...I always used to chastise my thoughts, put them down etc (I still do at times)...If I were to treat a child like I did my thoughts, it would be no surprise if s/he ended up miserable, neurotic and felt unloved. And it would be no surprise if the kid would eventually start to lash out at the parent saying stuff like "I hate you". Love your thoughts, and they'll love you back!

Anyway, that's what I believe although I've still got bad anxiety (but it's better than it was). Just wanted to say that so you know I'm not trying to act like I've got it all worked out, I'm learning myself.
 

dottie

Well-known member
i don't believe in true inner peace. there is no good without the bad. i read some factoid somewhere from some study that happy people are less honest with themselves. so... do they have more inner peace? if so, is it TRUE inner peace?
 

no12

Banned
surely.. love can be defined as a good feeling. a feeling of pleasure. if one has consuming physical pain, and torturous feelings, or stimuli which causes one to act in a certain "negative" way, how then can that person feel "self love"?

Self-love depends on material circumstances, at least up to a point.

Not everything in this world has been solved. not everything is the world is known. in fact almost everything can be considered just THEORY. nothing may be as it seems. do we even have any REAL cures?

I dont know how can one be dishonest with one's self, unless you are a split personality trying to hide one thing from your other "self". how does one just block all that is considered "negative" ? they just don't think about it? or they just don't process pain? or they just block out all that is negative, unconsciously?

especially the ones who do this, and then get mad at others for not having the ability themselves to block the pain, and the suffering, and the biological reactions to stress, and hurt, and "negative thoughts", maybe they dont even know they do this? or how they do it?
 
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