I came to a realization

Social-E-Aukward

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Heh, I love this realization. I actually looked at my ex the other day and told her that I'm way too judgmental and easily offended. I get hostile over some of the stupidest little meaningless things.

She tilted her head and said simply, "You don't know how long I've been waiting to hear YOU say that."

I've been stuck in a rut of people-hating for a long time... not even sure how long anymore... but you're completely right. I've gotta get myself out of this by putting some effort into being nice to others before I can hope for anything substantial in return.

Thanks for posting, freestylemonster! :)
 

Linseca

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Hmm, I'm not certain if I entirely agree w/ this. I certainly agree with the part about having a positive attitude and being all around more optimistic (I like to think I try to most of the time, despite having sa). But I also believe there truly are a lot of people out there who are mean-spirited - and it's unfortunate that people with sa are labeled as "arrogant".

When I meet new people they're always a neutral blank slate to me. I try to be as openminded and friendly as possible (despite coming off incredibly shy) and regardless I'd have to say that a large number of them truly are "mean" or "shallow" (emphasis on shallow lol). I think the experience is difference depending on who you are... there's a whole lot of nice people out there no doubt. But I wouldn't fully pull the blame on yourself - I'm definitely not a picky person, but that doesn't stop me from occasionally thinking some of the thoughts you did.
 

RN3

Active member
Good insight freestyle,once you realize TRUTH it really does work in your favor. People with SA tend to look unfavorable at others who speak so freely in public and seem to be enjoying life. Personally speaking I so desire to have that skill and thats why I find so much fault in outgoing people. The reality is there not that horrible person that I make them out to be. Like you (after a long period of time) I realized its not them, it's me.
 

Streifen

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This sounds really awesome and I wish you the best in your endeavor! I am trying to eliminate as much negativity from my life as I reasonably can and mentally rubberizing myself so any new negativity bounces off, because I want to attract good things into my life and I feel that to receive what I am looking means to give more of what I am looking for. There will still be meanies out there, because you can't have light without shadow, but if you run into them, don't let them get you down!
 
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Lea

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I dont know about anyone else's but my experience wasnt quite like this, when I was being friendly,I was always open,but I have been betrayed for status,ridiculed,walked over and mostly taken advantage of,yes if you are popular,good looking or is being fake most people will be nice to you and there are also truly nice people,I guess its a risk you have to take,funny none of this made me truly angry, more like sad at myself and at people.

Agree with ^. I think the original post is too idealistic. People are the way they are and they - their true character - won´t change no matter if you smile at them or not. All the smiling is just a superficial bollocks, I don't say it's wrong but is of no use if the person is dishonest underneath or so.
 

dutchguy

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You know, this makes sense - I've always been in the 'all people are stupid and mean' camp too, but that attitude will only make yourself mean as well. To give an example from my own experience; whenever I was in conversations I never cared about the other person. All I did was talk about myself - I never asked how they were or showed interest in them - because frankly, I didn't care - I thought they were all stupid and mean anyway. Thanks for bringing this point up, because I almost forgot how simple yet important this realization is.

Agree with ^. I think the original post is too idealistic. People are the way they are and they - their true character - won´t change no matter if you smile at them or not. All the smiling is just a superficial bollocks, I don't say it's wrong but is of no use if the person is dishonest underneath or so.
This is just a 'glass half full/glass half empty' thing. Nobody in the world is 100% good or 100% bad; we're all shades of gray and yes, there is egoism in every single human being - but there is also a need for 'connection'. Yet, if I can have even the smallest amount of influence on which of these sides people show me - it's going to be the good side.
 

cosmosis

Well-known member
My experience is a little different. I always seem to like people at the beginning as I always give people the benefit of the doubt and want so bad to believe that people are genuine and good. But typically, the more I get to know them, the worse my opinion of them becomes as I see the fakeness behind the games they play and see their true motivations.

Also, I'm not too familiar with people like "Jimbo". I've been surrounded by very outging people all my life and I find that their opinions of people are certainly not always good. They tend to see more bad then I do.

But it is true that they ultimately do see more good. They ultimately find people they like and can connect to. But I have trouble finding people who are similar with which I can connect with. And I know if you see people as different, you will naturally be more scared and anxious. The true issue for me is that I just can't find many people I can connect with regardless of how nice and caring I try to be.
 

krs2snow

Well-known member
Freestyle, it starts and ends w/u. Change ur mindset, change ur life. Wonderful insight to ur situation. Jimbo is the best! For "pointing" this all out to u!

Hmm, I'm not certain if I entirely agree w/ this....I also believe there truly are a lot of people out there who are mean-spirited - and it's unfortunate that people with sa are labeled as "arrogant".

When I meet new people they're always a neutral blank slate to me. I try to be as openminded and friendly as possible (despite coming off incredibly shy) and regardless I'd have to say that a large number of them truly are "mean" or "shallow" (emphasis on shallow lol). I think the experience is difference depending on who you are... there's a whole lot of nice people out there no doubt. But I wouldn't fully pull the blame on yourself - I'm definitely not a picky person, but that doesn't stop me from occasionally thinking some of the thoughts you did.

Most of what I want to say is not directed towards u, Linseca. I just have some observations and ur post helps highlite them. When u meet pple, u never have a blank slate. Ur immediately labeling them. U, me and everyone else on the planet does this. There is no blank slate unless ur an embryo that doesn't have the ability to make judgments or find things attractive/unattractuve, likeable/unlikeable. There's no blank slate b-cuz subconscious memories, associations, feelings, etc come into ur mind upon every meeting. U're consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously making judgments about the person ur metting with. If u're self-description is "incredibly shy" u're not coming off to others as "openminded" or "friendly" as u mignt have percieved u were. Shyness is most often percieved as aloofness, arrogance or indiference. Hence the observation that many pple w/SA are described as "arrogant". How would u- or anyone else- describe a person that made seemingly little effort to talk to u, didn't ask u any questions about urself, didn't smile and appeared as if they'd like to get away from u? Would u describe them as arrogant? Self-indulged? Rude? People, including those w/sa, don't know how to react and don't respond well to these attitudes (even though they're percieved). The difference is that pple w/SA don't often see these qualities in themselves. They see their own struggles and the things they've overcome. They see how hard they're trying. But the thing to remember is that there are at least 2 pple having the experience and percieving the events. That means there are 2 perspectives. 2 points of view. Urs and the other person (or persons). Of these 2, the only one u can change, the only one that matters is Urs. If u believe pple are good- pple will seem good to u. What I hate is when pple w/sa determine that they're soo very different from "society" that nobody else can possibly understand them. Does anyone else see the paradox in this statement?!! If it's what U believe, its what U will experience. Take the OPs friend Jimbo (and I'd like to consider him my friend too, even if its just through association!) for example. Here's a person who repeatedly reports pleasant conversations w/complete strangers. How is that possible? Is Jimbo so very, very, different from me that almost every person he meets, almost every conversation with almost every miscelaneous waitress, buisnessman or attendant is .. nice? and positive? OR, am I just operating from a different point of view than Jimbo? Am I so negative that every interaction I have I walk away from it w/either a negative impression of myself or a negative impression of the other person?

The OP has realized a monumental thing here in terms of self-growth. He's realized its a matter of perception. To take this a step further, perception is 100% based upon esteem. If ur esteem relies in others offering u assurance, u are going to have ups and downs in ur life. If ur esteem comes from a place w/in, u will find ur happiness in this world.
 
Freestyle, it starts and ends w/u. Change ur mindset, change ur life. Wonderful insight to ur situation. Jimbo is the best! For "pointing" this all out to u!



Most of what I want to say is not directed towards u, Linseca. I just have some observations and ur post helps highlite them. When u meet pple, u never have a blank slate. Ur immediately labeling them. U, me and everyone else on the planet does this. There is no blank slate unless ur an embryo that doesn't have the ability to make judgments or find things attractive/unattractuve, likeable/unlikeable. There's no blank slate b-cuz subconscious memories, associations, feelings, etc come into ur mind upon every meeting. U're consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously making judgments about the person ur metting with. If u're self-description is "incredibly shy" u're not coming off to others as "openminded" or "friendly" as u mignt have percieved u were. Shyness is most often percieved as aloofness, arrogance or indiference. Hence the observation that many pple w/SA are described as "arrogant". How would u- or anyone else- describe a person that made seemingly little effort to talk to u, didn't ask u any questions about urself, didn't smile and appeared as if they'd like to get away from u? Would u describe them as arrogant? Self-indulged? Rude? People, including those w/sa, don't know how to react and don't respond well to these attitudes (even though they're percieved). The difference is that pple w/SA don't often see these qualities in themselves. They see their own struggles and the things they've overcome. They see how hard they're trying. But the thing to remember is that there are at least 2 pple having the experience and percieving the events. That means there are 2 perspectives. 2 points of view. Urs and the other person (or persons). Of these 2, the only one u can change, the only one that matters is Urs. If u believe pple are good- pple will seem good to u. What I hate is when pple w/sa determine that they're soo very different from "society" that nobody else can possibly understand them. Does anyone else see the paradox in this statement?!! If it's what U believe, its what U will experience. Take the OPs friend Jimbo (and I'd like to consider him my friend too, even if its just through association!) for example. Here's a person who repeatedly reports pleasant conversations w/complete strangers. How is that possible? Is Jimbo so very, very, different from me that almost every person he meets, almost every conversation with almost every miscelaneous waitress, buisnessman or attendant is .. nice? and positive? OR, am I just operating from a different point of view than Jimbo? Am I so negative that every interaction I have I walk away from it w/either a negative impression of myself or a negative impression of the other person?

The OP has realized a monumental thing here in terms of self-growth. He's realized its a matter of perception. To take this a step further, perception is 100% based upon esteem. If ur esteem relies in others offering u assurance, u are going to have ups and downs in ur life. If ur esteem comes from a place w/in, u will find ur happiness in this world.

Awesome post!
 
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