Gather 'round y'all it's story time!

CZi

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This was in part inspired by the recluse's comment thread and my experience I've had in SWP so far! Without further ado let me begin:

I've read many a thread now that I not only relate to but also find direct parallels from points in my own life. It's sad how cruel human nature can be, and it doesn't matter what part of the world you live in, gender, age or race. Saddest yet, we ourselves are often the cruelest of all...

When I was young I was constantly bullied, mocked and ostracized. Typical introverted skinny runt with glasses and braces. Couple that with parents who were strict as hell, a mother who would accept no less then A's (or the rare B) academically, the fact that I sucked at sports and was overly polite for an awesomely easy personality to mock. Needless to say I never had any romantic relationships and only a small group of friends. I was probably taunted with every cliche, defamation, rumor and slander that were popular with kids at the time. I put way too much faith into what others thought, and I truly believed them myself. Due to being naive and impressionable I saw myself just as they said. The majority HAD to be right...right? So I patiently waited and hoped it'd all change. That when I got older I'd be cool and normal looking, that I'd simply grow out of it ugly duck style.

Well, too my horror it was pretty much the same even through College. The only difference was I started to be more sociable, and was nervously excited to start fresh now that I was older with a different set of people. I was finally average height, wore contacts, had no braces and stopped being really quiet. No dice, I still was ostracized and made fun of lol. I didn't understand, I was still really skinny yeah, but things were supposed to be different! So basically it took major depression, isolation and dropping out after 2 years for me to seriously look at my life and realize the problem was always within, not what I looked like. Sure if I was tall, ridiculously handsome and ripped I'd be accepted more readily just at face value, but if my internal emotions and self worth didn't reflect the outside, everything would fall apart just as easily. I had to learn to love myself, face my social anxiety and come to grips with my really screwed up self-esteem and image before I could ever be truly successful in the social arena. The whole "if you don't love yourself, how can you expect others to love you?" kinda deal. Anyway, I went through therapy/counseling and that brings me to where I am now. Better, still craptacular self-esteem, but a work in progress.

I just figured I'd share this possibly familiar story in hope others might take something from it or perhaps self reflection. Oh, and of course it helped to get that off my chest with other peers! Feel free to comment, question or add your own story.

Be strong, never surrender. :]
 
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reslo

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glad that you were able to get help! My anxiety affects me alot, and I've never gotten help for it.

The grass is always greener on the other side.
 

Blabla..

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But you are right , it's always within , you don't have to accept the insults people throw at you , it's hard since we work so hard to put positive images of ourselves in the minds of others ,
 

Srijita52

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This was in part inspired by the recluse's comment thread and my experience I've had in SWP so far! Without further ado let me begin:

I've read many a thread now that I not only relate to but also find direct parallels from points in my own life. It's sad how cruel human nature can be, and it doesn't matter what part of the world you live in, gender, age or race. Saddest yet, we ourselves are often the cruelest of all...

When I was young I was constantly bullied, mocked and ostracized. Typical introverted skinny runt with glasses and braces. Couple that with parents who were strict as hell, a mother who would accept no less then A's (or the rare B) academically, the fact that I sucked at sports and was overly polite for an awesomely easy personality to mock. Needless to say I never had any romantic relationships and only a small group of friends. I was probably taunted with every cliche, defamation, rumor and slander that were popular with kids at the time. I put way too much faith into what others thought, and I truly believed them myself. Due to being naive and impressionable I saw myself just as they said. The majority HAD to be right...right? So I patiently waited and hoped it'd all change. That when I got older I'd be cool and normal looking, that I'd simply grow out of it ugly duck style.

Well, too my horror it was pretty much the same even through College. The only difference was I started to be more sociable, and was nervously excited to start fresh now that I was older with a different set of people. I was finally average height, wore contacts, had no braces and stopped being really quiet. No dice, I still was ostracized and made fun of lol. I didn't understand, I was still really skinny yeah, but things were supposed to be different! So basically it took major depression, isolation and dropping out after 2 years for me to seriously look at my life and realize the problem was always within, not what I looked like. Sure if I was tall, ridiculously handsome and ripped I'd be accepted more readily just at face value, but if my internal emotions and self worth didn't reflect the outside, everything would fall apart just as easily. I had to learn to love myself, face my social anxiety and come to grips with my really screwed up self-esteem and image before I could ever be truly successful in the social arena. The whole "if you don't love yourself, how can you expect others to love you?" kinda deal. Anyway, I went through therapy/counseling and that brings me to where I am now. Better, still craptacular self-esteem, but a work in progress.

I just figured I'd share this possibly familiar story in hope others might take something from it or perhaps self reflection. Oh, and of course it helped to get that off my chest with other peers! Feel free to comment, question or add your own story.

Be strong, never surrender. :]

Thanks for sharing.Its a great story,pretty much my story too.Except for I'm still trying to face my fears & love myself.
 
It's sad how bullying has affected us -- and strict parenting. My brother did extremely well as a kid, so as the younger sister I was under immense pressure to get As. What is/was worse is that we're BOTH A-scoring kids, but I was under pressure to get the same sort of As as him [ie, the 'higher' grades]. I felt stupid most of the time and I recall when I was little my parents thought a great 'motivator' would be to threaten to adopt another child in my place. Of course now I'm older I know they would never do that but when I was a kid I really, really believed them and wailed a lot over it. They deny that threat but I remember. Of course that wasn't the end of it.

It didn't help that I was a plump, short kid so I was often teased for being ugly too. And aunts etc would 'compare' me with other 'cuter' children and mention that I wasn't very cute.

When I reached around 16/17 things got a lot worse. I went from an all girls' environment to a co-ed (mixed - boys & girls) school and it got incredibly bad. Before that at school I was mainly treated just 'as the weird one'. People left me alone, mainly. But when I got to the co-ed school I was actively ostracised and teased, and they would do things like lock me out of the classroom, even complain to the teachers about me. With guys around, the social anxiety factor was so much worse.

The irony is that it isn't only about 'good' social expectations. Fast forward a few years, I realised they were probably bullying me because of my bust. Technically a busty girl should have a good time -- but I can tell you she doesn't! After that stint in that school (right before I entered uni) the problem worsened.

When I did enter uni I was however mainly left alone again, but by then the problem -- mainly panic attacks -- had worsened to the point where I was taking (and am taking) medication. Somehow things had spread such that I believed that I was not just ugly, but incredibly stupid as well. CZi is right in saying it's all inside, because I felt/feel that way despite getting the dean's list several times and a scholarship (and other academic stuffs). I'm still trying to get over it because I know that if I don't, I'll be in deep ****. It goes against all logic really, because appearance doesn't cohere with reality. It's hard to talk about with others, because the immediate response would be 'but you're clever' -- how do you explain stupidity as a conviction? Even worse, one knows -- and if one doesn't it is a fact -- that intelligence isn't necessarily indicated by one's grades -- so in effect my grades don't actually say anything. There's extra pressure because I'm expected to get another scholarship, which sort of makes me more anxious. I mean, I want to do my phd, but the expectations can be a bit scary -- when people take that you will do it (for granted) and you'll be more or less fully funded -- and you yourself are frightened and insecure.

Come to guys, same thing. I've never managed the whole social thing because I can't figure out these rules. I'm friendly enough, but I can't 'date'. I can't because I'm not sure what a 'date' is. I mean what's the difference between a 'friendly outing' and 'a date'? What codes of behavior are required on each occasion? I'm afraid I haven't been socialised very well. I get confused. Well, to this point, no 'dates' and no relationships, and I've figured it must be because of the ugliness. If not then........ [is social ineptness a form of ugliness? :S philosophically speaking].

I lost around 16kg and am healthy for once in my life, and the exercise has helped a bit with the anxiety. But of course it came right back round and I'm paranoid about putting the weight back on and -- surprise -- I feel as ugly as before. I'm trying to find my way around this too, because like intelligence I know that it doesn't matter if people tell you that you aren't ugly. It's just this feeling -- like Gregor in The Metamorphosis -- feeling our way in the dark.

'Face value' is a complicated concept. In terms of 'face value', I look much younger than my actual age and (apparently?) as though I can't do anything. There's this weird gap between what I can do, what I'm expected to do, and what people think I can or cannot do just based on my face. I must say as a woman the value placed on appearances is immense <_<

This is going to end abruptly because I have run out of caffeine and need to go to the gym soon...

[in any case I hope I've helped. One problem with having joined this is that I'm now worried whether I'll be posting 'the right amount' or 'the right things' or whatever :( ]
 

pakistan

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spot on with this
"I've read many a thread now that I not only relate to but also find direct parallels from points in my own life"

Can totally find a few in this thread, not the bullying though

LOL'd @ "Technically a busty girl should have a good time" sorry :p
 
spot on with this
"I've read many a thread now that I not only relate to but also find direct parallels from points in my own life"

Can totally find a few in this thread, not the bullying though

LOL'd @ "Technically a busty girl should have a good time" sorry :p
that's what people always tell me, which is frustrating and annoying :p
 

pakistan

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lol, maybe your not using them to your advantage...i aint a perv or anything, but a lil bit of cleave never hurt anyone :p
 

CZi

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Thanks for all the replies and stories everyone! Maybe next time I'll write up a spooky campfire ghost story so there's no more disappointment. ;P

Also, tr1racy makes a great metaphor, plus a Kafka reference! It's pretty silly and illogical, but getting compliments rarely do refute my own thoughts. Especially since the one's I rarely get are from family members, and not something more objective like peers.

This is the response I hoped the thread would get! Every little reply and story helps. :]
 
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