Alcohol helps me

rach_pisces

Member
Hi when i go out with my mates i have to at least drink a can of lager or anything just to chill me out. If i dont drink im so paranoid and cant lift my head up infront of people. My head shakes like mad and my hands and legs lol. I get really depressed but when im drunk it feels like im in a different world and i have no worries, but when i start to sober up i can tell because i go quiete again and cant talk so much as i was. I cant eat infront of people either, or go toilet without turning the taps on so no one can hear me. I cant write infront of people to and hate picking the phone up so i just txt. Does anyone else have these problems because i hate and just wish i was normal and have fun without having to drink all the time because sometimes i cant remember things then get my mates telling me and it sometimes is so embarrasing lol. Anyone wana talk about it or anything just pm me. :)
 

corrinaelizabeth

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hiya im a pisces 2!lol i have all those probs apart from the writing 1,but i hate having to drink when i used 2 go out with m8s,but i couldnt stop at 1 lol i had 2 drrink and drink til i didnt remeber ne thing and usually caused a scene arghh how embarrassing,gr8 excuse now i cant drink coz im on benzos lol,im also being referred 2 c a therapist and am on other meds 2,ru receiving ne help?
 

timmid

Member
Hmm.. I am too shy/embarassed to even go out and order alcohol...

Using public washrooms is tough for me too, I hate it when someone walks in or whatever. When I go to a restaraunt I usually try to get a spot where people can't look at me as much.
 

BrokenSmile

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Alcohol is bad and don't help at all... maybe just at that moment. If you gonna continue to drink to remedy your anxiety you'll gonna use to it and you will gonna have one more problem besides SP/SA - you will become an alcoholic. You know that you don't wanna be like that and you don't want more problems in your life so you should find something different then alcohol for making you feel better.... :!:
 

boro

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Alcahol can be fun but it shouldn't be looked at as a cure or an aid to help you beat SA. Even though i was never an alcoholic i would sometimes drink before social situations, even a few times before university classes - which started at 9AM!. I hoped that being drunk or at least a bit tipsy in these situations, particularly if i was with people i didn't know well, would break down social barriers, helping me to familiarise myself with others and vice versa to the point where i would no longer need alcohol, but even if i had made some social inroads with a particular person, i would see the exact same person again, the next day and this time i would be sober. The result was that nothing changed at all, if anything it was worse as i was thinking of all the stupid things i had said when my guard was down.

While i'm at it, does anyone else do this? That is, get drunk but not to the point where you can't remeber anything then analyse what you said to people the night before and feel really lousy about it because you've opened yourself up more than you usually would? Now there's something worse than a hangover.
 

Septor

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Quixote said:
Drinking makes me even more depressed normally. It doesn't help a lot

I thought I was the only one lol.It does the same thing to me to.It just make me more depressed and sad and I hate the taste anyways.
 

Quixote

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I thought I was the only one lol.It does the same thing to me to.It just make me more depressed and sad and I hate the taste anyways.

Maybe we are the only two :) Actually I think it is quite common, some people get a "depressive" effect from it. I think for me it is due to the fact that I probably have a mild depresssion to begin with, so I'm usualy feeling unhappy about whatever situation I am into, and the alcohol just puts me down even more.
 

cLavain

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Quixote said:
I thought I was the only one lol.It does the same thing to me to.It just make me more depressed and sad and I hate the taste anyways.

Maybe we are the only two :) Actually I think it is quite common, some people get a "depressive" effect from it. I think for me it is due to the fact that I probably have a mild depresssion to begin with, so I'm usualy feeling unhappy about whatever situation I am into, and the alcohol just puts me down even more.
And let's not forget how unhappy it makes you the morning after when you go "Oh, no, I can't believe I did/said that!" :?
 

scatmantom

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Drinkin is fine, but the hang over goes hand in hand with depression, plus regrets of acting like a twat when im pissed means Ive got more to worry about next time I go out.
 

koyaanisqatsi

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I hear you!

My issues are much the same as yours except...I just have the problem of interacting with people. I don't seem to _specifically_ any of the other issues like writing in front of people. Wait a minute! In reality, I have some difficulty doing anything with other people around me in _any_ situations in which I might be subject ( in my imagination, at least ) to scrutiny. I'm not joking here. I'm thinking about what bothers me as I write...it's all kind of spontaneous. I've known that I'm a SPic for a long time ( since 1991 ), but more recently concluded that I more likely suffer from Generalized Anxiety Disorder.

But alcohol is the issue here AFAIC. I used to do what you are doing--that being self-medication with alcohol. Like you, I didn't feel comfortable around people, even friends, until I had at least a couple beers in me. Of course, I didn't stop at a couple beers. When I was home alone, I drank and all my anxiety (over work and personal matters) and depression magically disappeared. It was great. I exercised sometimes also, which had roughly the same effect. But drinking was the magic elixir.

Here's the problem with alcohol. This may or may not happen to you, as it did with me. I started to drink more frequently and also more alcohol when I did drink. I was losing control. My health was suffering. My psychiatrist and I talked about my drinking. We tried various strategies to reduce my drinking, but none worked. Finally, in a session he went over all my strategies and my failures in reducing my drinking, and he asked me point blank "do you think you are an alcoholic?" I was like a deer caught in the headlights. He had very gently and cleverly talked me into concluding, on my own, that I was an alcoholic. I answered "yes". I started going to AA meetings and quit drinking.

I'm proud to say that my last drink was a six-pack on Memorial Day of 1992. Life and had its ups and _major_ downs since then, but I have not drank since then. My life changed. I began to see who I was more clearly--not easy to face, but worth it.

Bottom line: I would hate to see you blunder down the same path I was on. Many people don't make it back from where I was. Two people I've known died from drinking--both choked to death _alone_ on blood from bleeding ulcers that were caused by or made worse by alcohol. I've heard of people ( this seems incredible, but it's true ) who needed alcohol so badly, that they crawled under cars and opened the radiator drain and drank the coolant. I'm guessing that they didn't live very long.

Last Bottom line: I have nothing against alcohol. I refuse to say that you are an alcoholic. Only you can determine whether you are an alcoholic. I _do_ think you should talk to a professional or go to some AA meetings. If what you hear at AA meetings sounds like crap, you're not ready to be there. If what you hear at some AA meetings from other people sounds exactly like what you might say about yourself, keep going. Talk at meetings and hang on--it's white knuckle time. If you make it, your life will change in so many ways.

End of lecture. I only wrote what I did because you sound like you are on exactly the same path I was on. One question: can you stop drinking for one month, simply voluntarily? I'm going to bet the answer is "no". I'll buy you a beer if I'm wrong.

Reply to this post and let me know if you want talk offline. Reply anyway if you want. good luck
 

shipost

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I used to drink when I didn't know I had SA, just made things 1000000% worse! My mum got in a mood and started drinking to then she was getting so bad she was colapsed on the floor etc nearly every night so I stopped. But she carried on, was a very horrible experience seeing my mum like that... I won't forget it! She loft custody of the little kids over that, well she never officially but she just let the dad have them.

Now I won't ever drink alcohol, nothing but bad experiences! Another time when I was in school I drank a bottle of cider and ended up crying and screaming I want to go home my nan has died... when infact my nan was dead before i was born... so def makes things worse than they are :lol:

keep of the alcohol but have it on occasions, drinking looks fun but its stupid imo. if your doing it to get drunk it is, which most people are! i think its ok to have 1-2 cans or somthing at the weekend to relax with but to drink to get total drunk crazy...

ok enough now lol
 

koyaanisqatsi

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To Staind (but not only Staind)

Well, my drinking did not progress to the "all but one night per week" point until I was about 40 yo. Well it did at times, but generally on for short periods. It turns out we alcoholics tend to lie to ourselves and often to others, about the amount we drink at any time and the frequency with which we drink.

I enjoyed being drunk...I guess. It relieved anxiety related to anticipation for future events, as well as the "background" anxiety I've always had to live with. Like you, the staggering [ ;-) ] amounts of alcohol I drank before and at social events not only helped with, but allowed me to go to them and enjoy them. Until the next day, at which time, I felt embassment for no particular reason. I was more active when I drank. For example, I often worked on repairing or rebuilding my bicycles when drunk, or I prepped my bikes for long rides the following day. This example and others, suggest that I suffer from a more Generalized Anxiety than just Social Phobia. I tried various strategies to cut back on or stop my drinking...none ever worked. Finally, I ended up going to AA because I knew I had to do something. I've not had a drink since Memorial Day of 1992. Quitting drinking competely changed my life. I was drinking to self-medicate for anxiety and depression. I felt great when drink. Life has been very diffficult at times, with issues beyond my control, since I quit drinking. But I have not gone back to drinking.

I won't say you are an alcoholic, but that could account for why you "find it hard to go a night without alcohol." My life was like that and getting worse. Only you can make that determination and virtually anyone in AA will tell you the same thing. Alcoholism is a progressive disease, even if you are not drinking. When you're ready ( or even if you're not ), you might try an AA meeting. If you want to, keep going to the meetings; if you don't think the meeting is of help, you probably are not ready to be there. When and if you are ready to do something about your drinking, you'll go to the meetings because you know you must do so. People can be alcoholics for many reasons: in my case, I was self-medicating to relieve my anxiety and depression; physical addiction was _not_ an issue for me.

When I finally went to AA meetings because I wanted to, my favorite meetings were the open discussion meetings. And most of what other individuals said could have come from my own mouth. No shame in being an alcoholic. You will meet some _very_ intelligent people there, some very successful people and some who are not very successful. Your goal would be to quit drinking, but those who've really made AA work well for them, seem so calm and assured. If your drinking begins to ruin personal relationships, causes problems in family life, causes problems at work, then it's past time to do something about it---even then, it's not too late. It's never to late.

End of another lecture.

Good luck,
k.


Staind said:
I feel like I'm becoming an alcoholic, at one point I was too embarassed to start drinking but once I got over that I've been binge drinking for around 8 months now, since I turned 20, I go about 1 day a week without alcohol, that's it, I don't understand why, because it's not like it makes me feel any better, like wine makes me have a crying fit usually, but I can't stop drinking because it gives me something to do, something to think about, something to buy, lol, god this is pathetic! But the first time that I drank in a social setting was last weekend, and fuck yeah it helped! :D

I don't undestand why I find it hard to go a night without alcohol, given the fact that I don't really enjoy being drunk :? I guess it has just become another obsession, eh I don't know, I can't focus on what I mean because I've been drinking Vodka! lol
 

r0ck0ut04

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I used to drink every day for like 2 years, I felt like thats what everyone my age was doin, can turn into a bad habit.
 
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