Does God exist?

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Klaus

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This is so much suffering that I really thought about killing myself today!

I can't stand this for more 20 years!

I'm tired!

I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.

I'm still phobic and even more every day.

I'm afraid of appearing at the window. I'm afraid of going to University.

I'm afraid all the time and only about people! I'm always being fucked by salespeople because I simple agree, I can't disagree.

I'm so fucking tired of suffering. My life is like a bad trip that never ends.

Can you see me God? I'm a fucking good person! I've never done anything bad to other people.
Help me! Why the hell I'm this way since I was born?

I'm exhausted!!!

Thanks for reading, I'm going to be shy about my neighbours now.
 
creep_x

creep_x

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sabbath92003 said:
Klaus said:
I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.
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Meds and CBT just made me worse. But ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) has turned my downward spiral around. Give it a shot. You can do ACT thru $20 ACT self-help workbooks.

www.thehappinesstrap.com
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sabbath, can u please explain me how cbt made u worse? cbt has been working really fine for me.
 
whispering_screams

whispering_screams

Well-known member
Klaus said:
This is so much suffering that I really thought about killing myself today!

I can't stand this for more 20 years!

I'm tired!

I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.

I'm still phobic and even more every day.

I'm afraid of appearing at the window. I'm afraid of going to University.

I'm afraid all the time and only about people! I'm always being fucked by salespeople because I simple agree, I can't disagree.

I'm so fucking tired of suffering. My life is like a bad trip that never ends.

Can you see me God? I'm a fucking good person! I've never done anything bad to other people.
Help me! Why the hell I'm this way since I was born?

I'm exhausted!!!

Thanks for reading, I'm going to be shy about my neighbours now.
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I don't know why people ask for god's help during their worst times. When I was suffering at my worst, god did not exist for me. The last thing I cared about was whether there's a god or not and if god can hear me and help me.

I believe in god now though. :p

Hang in there Klaus. *hugs* If you can't leave the house, exercise lots at home and eat healthier. And keep posting on the forum you'll realize theres lots of strange people here and we all love you. We don't want to lose you. You're just like us.
 
Birdman

Birdman

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i think god exists, im sorry for your story, sometime i fell the same way to.

Not only do i have social anxiety but i also have crohns disease, so i have two things that i have to worry about.
 
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Klaus

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whispering_screams said:
This is so much suffering
I don't know why people ask for god's help during their worst times. When I was suffering at my worst, god did not exist for me. The last thing I cared about was whether there's a god or not and if god can hear me and help me.

I believe in god now though. :p

Hang in there Klaus. *hugs* If you can't leave the house, exercise lots at home and eat healthier. And keep posting on the forum you'll realize theres lots of strange people here and we all love you. We don't want to lose you. You're just like us.
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I believe you guys are not like me. I have crazy thought all the time. I think person A think that I am clever and shy. I believe person B thinks I am dumb and dark. I think person C thinks I am small. I think person D thinks I am tall.

Do you see? I think I have many personalities depending of the person.

Thanks for the message!
Ps: You treated me well so I don't know how to respond correctly. I don't know if I am going to be not polite with you. Or if I am going to be polite. Or if will be extreme polite and ridiculous.

I'm the most social phobic of the whole world!
 
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Klaus

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Birdman said:
i think god exists, im sorry for your story, sometime i fell the same way to.

Not only do i have social anxiety but i also have crohns disease, so i have two things that i have to worry about.
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You are much stronger than me.
 
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FlirtyandDirty

Well-known member
Klaus said:
This is so much suffering that I really thought about killing myself today!

I can't stand this for more 20 years!

I'm tired!

I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.

I'm still phobic and even more every day.

I'm afraid of appearing at the window. I'm afraid of going to University.

I'm afraid all the time and only about people! I'm always being fucked by salespeople because I simple agree, I can't disagree.

I'm so fucking tired of suffering. My life is like a bad trip that never ends.

Can you see me God? I'm a fucking good person! I've never done anything bad to other people.
Help me! Why the hell I'm this way since I was born?

I'm exhausted!!!

Thanks for reading, I'm going to be shy about my neighbours now.
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"I can't stand this for more 20 years! "


At the end of 2001, I walked into my doctors and sat there and cried like a baby. This was nothing new to be honest as I had done this so may times. This time though, when the new doctor asked me what was wrong, instead of saying I wanted to die, I said that I did not want to die living like this. That was the first ray of hope in my life. The fact was there, I was fuckin fed up of being socially anxious and agoraphobic.

Like you, I hid from everyone. I was no longer answering my phone. Unless I went to the doctors, I was stuck in. I was afraid when people knocked at the door. I was a mess. But that one sentence showed that I no longer wanted to die. I wanted to live but free from all that made me want to die. Bearing in mind I am also a mother whose children had to care for her as I was unable to do it myself. My life was a mess.

It was another couple of years before I really started to make changes . Meeting my beloved on a SA site was the first thing to help. He was my best friend and suffered from SA too. Another thing that helped was being introduced to this forum. Through posting here I could see how I was able to interact will others. I saw that I had opinions that I felt able to share. They may not have been good opinions as far as others were concerned, but they were mine and I was voicing them. I saw too how people responded to me and that gave me the confidence to push myself forward. That was the beginning of my journey and although I still have a long ways to go, I go forward with a belief that I can do it.

You may have to try quite a few different methods or therapies until you find your way. But as long as you keep trying you will have hope.


Good Luck!


Billie xxx
 
sabbath92003

sabbath92003

Banned
creep_x said:
sabbath92003 said:
Klaus said:
I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.
Click to expand...

Meds and CBT just made me worse. But ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) has turned my downward spiral around. Give it a shot. You can do ACT thru $20 ACT self-help workbooks.

www.thehappinesstrap.com
Click to expand...

sabbath, can u please explain me how cbt made u worse? cbt has been working really fine for me.
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To me CBT was about noticing my "irrational" or "negative" thoughts and correcting or changing them to "rational" or "neutral" thoughts. But try as I might I couldn't correct or change my thoughts. In fact the struggle to change my thoughts made me worse. I'd spend all day debating myself and avoiding my life.

With ACT, I no longer seek to change (or control) my thoughts (however messed up they may be), feelings, memories, urges, etc. I still notice these thoughts but I let them be and try to make room for them. I focus on what valued actions I can take. I control my mouth, arms, legs and mind to do what needs to be done. Between mindfulness, defusion (distancing from thoughts), values, goals and actions, ACT has given me the tools to get my life back together.
 
sketchy24

sketchy24

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Klaus said:
I believe you guys are not like me. I have crazy thought all the time. I think person A think that I am clever and shy. I believe person B thinks I am dumb and dark. I think person C thinks I am small. I think person D thinks I am tall.

Do you see? I think I have many personalities depending of the person.

I'm the most social phobic of the whole world!
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Meh... you may be as different as you may think. I know quite a number of people have posted previously about feeling like a chameleon and changing around different people. I'm pretty much the same way. And no you're not the most social phobic person in the world. I thought I was... till I came here :p

Anyway hang in there.
 
whispering_screams

whispering_screams

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Klaus said:
Thanks for the message!
Ps: You treated me well so I don't know how to respond correctly. I don't know if I am going to be not polite with you. Or if I am going to be polite. Or if will be extreme polite and ridiculous.
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lol you responded just fine. :wink:
 
freestylemonster

freestylemonster

Banned
Klaus said:
This is so much suffering that I really thought about killing myself today!

I can't stand this for more 20 years!

I'm tired!

I've taken antidepressives, I've tried cognitive therapy.

I'm still phobic and even more every day.

I'm afraid of appearing at the window. I'm afraid of going to University.

I'm afraid all the time and only about people! I'm always being fucked by salespeople because I simple agree, I can't disagree.

I'm so fucking tired of suffering. My life is like a bad trip that never ends.

Can you see me God? I'm a fucking good person! I've never done anything bad to other people.
Help me! Why the hell I'm this way since I was born?

I'm exhausted!!!

Thanks for reading, I'm going to be shy about my neighbours now.
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I hear ya man! I've had thoughts about suicide a bunch of times on and off in the past...But instead I've decided to man up and solve my problems instead of letting them push me around.

CBT has really helped me!! I'm still shy and everything buuuut I can now tell when I'm thinking negative thoughts and put a stop to them. And I'm learning to not only stop these negative thoughts but to turn them around into positive thoughts!

For those of you who gave up on CBT, how long did you try it for? And did you spread the lessons out only applying one or two techniques at a time? Because it's very important that you don't rush through it...
 
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oNecoOlazN

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...why is this topic going off?
Isnt the topic about if there is a God or not,
yes, there is a God. Everyone heres just pretty much tOO blinded to see Him, to absorbed in their own misery and suffering to see how much He loves and cares for you, in the midst of all your tribulations and suffering,He is there, and He too suffers with you.

dont give up guys.
 
LostViking

LostViking

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oNecoOlazN said:
...why is this topic going off?
Isnt the topic about if there is a God or not,
yes, there is a God. Everyone heres just pretty much tOO blinded to see Him, to absorbed in their own misery and suffering to see how much He loves and cares for you, in the midst of all your tribulations and suffering,He is there, and He too suffers with you.

dont give up guys.
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No, there's not. I've been dragged to a church several times, and neither there nor anywhere else have I felt any sort of connection a higher power. That leaves things at the words of whackjobs, and if you claim there is a god then you better be able to prove it.
 
Erdkunde

Erdkunde

Active member
I don't think OP has much to do with the question of the existence of God. Besides, I think that when believers ask this question they're only questioning their faith in their god. They're not questioning the very existence of a deity. Trying to prove that something doesn't exist is very difficult anyway.
 
ShyBeliever

ShyBeliever

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I dont think so but..

I dont know if God exists..but one thing im sure...If He exists, He doesnt help us. We are on our own in this world.
 
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