Jezza
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...Or is it just the first symptom of generalised HH?
I started to wonder about this lately, as I read more and more reports from people saying they had palmoplantar HH first/originally but now also have HH on the rest/other parts of the body...
This is important for at least two reasons, one is that there's a difference between two types of sweatglands on the body and only one is really receptive to emotional stimuli, and two is that for medics, purely focal HH can (and will) be dismissed as being emotional sweating/bad luck/genetics, whereas generalised HH is more cause to think about underlying factors...which is what we really need, because cause and effect says there is one, and I don't see all these symptom fighting treatments really working, not to mention that the sweating itself might be just the most visible physical consequence of a cause that has many other consequences as well (for instance, the free radicals study I posted about 2 days ago, which again seems to suggest it's not just the sweating).
So....
here's my experience and my theory. It would be good to get some more perspectives on this so maybe you could share your HH experience over the years and say if you have purely palmoplantar HH, or also HH in other body areas. Kind of like the blood type post of Klamm. I also made a poll if you'd like to save some time and don't want to read yet another HH story... :lol:
Anyway...
My HH started out as purely palmoplantar when I was about 13 y/o. I would notice in class my paws were moist and would leave prints on the table and my papers if I'd have them on there. At first it was only when it was hot or when I was feeling stressed (I wouldn't say now it was anxiety induced, especially also seeing the reaction to heat, but it still could be, in fact at that point I thought it was because I knew of no other reason for people to sweat in feet and hands).
When I would go outside, there was maybe a mild clammyness. It still bothered me a lot, but it was purely hands and feet and I was convinced it would go away at some point as I grew older. Moreover, even apart from gym class, in high school we often played football or basketball outside, especially in summer, and my clothes would remain perfectly dry (no sweatpatches on trousers or arm pits at all).
This lasted till I was about 17y/o, when quite suddenly, the sweating became much worse and spread to my back, my back end, my legs/knees and sometimes also arm pits, from then on it's been getting worse and worse. Obviously, what changed here is that I formed apocrine sweat glands, which develop in puberty (which was late for me, I grew about 30 cm (12 inch) in 2/3 years from 15 till 17, losing some of my eye sight in the process, which is quite normal for fast growth). I suspect so because officially eccrine sweatglands are mainly present in palms, feet and axills (axillary sweatglands=mixed apocrine/endocrine), and all other places have predominantly apocrine sweatglands, and now I sweat in those other places as well.
Now interestingly, emotional sweating is said to only affect endocrine sweatglands :twisted: , so you'd expect if it was purely anxiety/emotionally induced, only feet, palms and axills would sweat...however this is not the case
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So...I think pamoplantar and generalized HH are the same thing, the only reason that (young) people have purely palmoplantar HH is because their sweatglands haven't fully developed yet in other areas of their body, hence, they can not possibly sweat profusely in those areas. It is a very simple explanation, but it might just be overlooked by medics...
Voting's open...
I started to wonder about this lately, as I read more and more reports from people saying they had palmoplantar HH first/originally but now also have HH on the rest/other parts of the body...
This is important for at least two reasons, one is that there's a difference between two types of sweatglands on the body and only one is really receptive to emotional stimuli, and two is that for medics, purely focal HH can (and will) be dismissed as being emotional sweating/bad luck/genetics, whereas generalised HH is more cause to think about underlying factors...which is what we really need, because cause and effect says there is one, and I don't see all these symptom fighting treatments really working, not to mention that the sweating itself might be just the most visible physical consequence of a cause that has many other consequences as well (for instance, the free radicals study I posted about 2 days ago, which again seems to suggest it's not just the sweating).
So....
here's my experience and my theory. It would be good to get some more perspectives on this so maybe you could share your HH experience over the years and say if you have purely palmoplantar HH, or also HH in other body areas. Kind of like the blood type post of Klamm. I also made a poll if you'd like to save some time and don't want to read yet another HH story... :lol:
Anyway...
My HH started out as purely palmoplantar when I was about 13 y/o. I would notice in class my paws were moist and would leave prints on the table and my papers if I'd have them on there. At first it was only when it was hot or when I was feeling stressed (I wouldn't say now it was anxiety induced, especially also seeing the reaction to heat, but it still could be, in fact at that point I thought it was because I knew of no other reason for people to sweat in feet and hands).
When I would go outside, there was maybe a mild clammyness. It still bothered me a lot, but it was purely hands and feet and I was convinced it would go away at some point as I grew older. Moreover, even apart from gym class, in high school we often played football or basketball outside, especially in summer, and my clothes would remain perfectly dry (no sweatpatches on trousers or arm pits at all).
This lasted till I was about 17y/o, when quite suddenly, the sweating became much worse and spread to my back, my back end, my legs/knees and sometimes also arm pits, from then on it's been getting worse and worse. Obviously, what changed here is that I formed apocrine sweat glands, which develop in puberty (which was late for me, I grew about 30 cm (12 inch) in 2/3 years from 15 till 17, losing some of my eye sight in the process, which is quite normal for fast growth). I suspect so because officially eccrine sweatglands are mainly present in palms, feet and axills (axillary sweatglands=mixed apocrine/endocrine), and all other places have predominantly apocrine sweatglands, and now I sweat in those other places as well.
Now interestingly, emotional sweating is said to only affect endocrine sweatglands :twisted: , so you'd expect if it was purely anxiety/emotionally induced, only feet, palms and axills would sweat...however this is not the case
So...I think pamoplantar and generalized HH are the same thing, the only reason that (young) people have purely palmoplantar HH is because their sweatglands haven't fully developed yet in other areas of their body, hence, they can not possibly sweat profusely in those areas. It is a very simple explanation, but it might just be overlooked by medics...
Voting's open...