If you suffered years of name calling, bullying, put downs..

charlieHungerford

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do you feel really negative about yourself, like you are not good enough, etc?

If so, do you put it down to your perceived flaws as to why you feel self conscious, inadequate, not good enough, etc? Are you really self conscious about those parts of you and you cannot accept yourself because of these flaws you are so insecure about? Or is it that you think you fear negative criticism because of this ridicule that you are self conscious and anxious, or is it something else?

Hope that makes sense. I will give my thoughts on this if I get some replies, its just I want to see what others think is causing you to be anxious and self conscious here.
 

luke1000

Member
i would say both

i have been put down alot by friends and my dad saying that i was not normal but what is normal.
now i fear what pepole are thinking about me like i feel that you might think i am mad but im not

had a hard time thinking wheather to post this so i am going to go for it
 

frizboy

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Sometimes I get flustered if I'm having a conversation with a romantic interest and I flub up. That by itself doesn't get to me though... almost everyone has these kinds of flub-ups. I just wish I had more hits than misses. If there's one thing I think is flawed about me, it's that I come up short too often in my conversations. I just lock up sometimes. That is a negative thought, but it's also true.
 

charlieHungerford

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Some really interesting replies, it does seem like those who have suffered with put downs and negative feedback over a prolonged period of time really do get effected by it.

The reason I asked this question is because I kind of think that I have kind of misinterpreted all the ridicule, put downs, which I suffered for many many years as a teenager on a daily basis, and I have been so focused on believing one side to this that I have totally overlooked another side to it.

I was ridicule for how I looked - i.e. weight (being skinny), features in my appearance and speech impediment. I suffered so much of it that it just changed the way I saw myself completely from being decent and good enough to being someone who is just so ugly and crap.

I got so self conscious of my 'flaws' due to negative feedback, name calling, put downs, etc that I felt so negatively myself on my flaws believing they were to blame for why people think so negatively of me. I became so self conscious that I would try hide my flaws or avoid people seeing my flaws and I was so insecure worrying about people seeing my flaws incase they think or say what so many others have said.
That sounds fine and perfectly true. But, actually there is something I did not consider or attempt correcting - that I felt so inadequate, so not good enough, that when it comes to looks I must be really ugly to always get negatively judged, I believed I could only be judge negatively and that I simply am just not good enough for anyone to ever think I am ok. These beliefs were not addressed or thought of. Was it right I should think so terrible of myself thinking I am just so crap, so inadequate, that I am just not good enough? Well it was wrong, these people who were so horrible to me wanted to put me down, they weren't giving a proper assessment of my good and bad, they just picked anything about me which was noticable like my speech impediment (which has now gone) and anything in my appearance they could be mean to me about and they made me feel like crap for it. But I could have looked like most kids and they would have slated me for how I looked - if I was skinny or fat, if I was tall or short, if I had goofy teeth, if I wore glasses, if I had spots, if I had big earss, nose, chin, if I had curly hair, if I wore braces, wore bad clothes, etc. Basically I would have got that same treatment no matter how I looked. And this ties in that I was looking at people where I work and although I accept everyone as being fine and good enough, I would still be so self conscious if I looked like them - simply because of how I have been made to feel - that having flaws in myself means people will not accept me as being good enough.
There is also a problem that I have believed everyone judges me negatively, people only see the worst in me and I believed everyone is so shallow and looks orientated because of all the negatives people said about my looks, I only thought this way because of what I experienced. But is this fair and true because of how I suffered? Again no, because I am basing this judgement on the bastards who always put me down and made me feel crap, even they may not have been intending to make me feel like I was so ugly, they may have just wanted to pick out my flaws to show off to their friends, make themselves feel better, wanted to make me feel bad. So again another thinking pattern that went to pot.

It also explains why I feel so self conscious about 'flaws' and am so critical of myself - even if they are not flaws I was ridiculed for, but if I feel anything about me is a flaw - i.e. if I do something wrong or if I have a spot or bad hair day it explains why I feel so self conscious and negative about myself, because past experience has shown me people find fault with any faults in me. Is that fair? No! We all have faults, no one is perfect, but people are not slated for it. If it was true then people would be ridiculing everyone and critical of people's looks, but I can tell from others when I take myself out of a situation, that people don't look at each other like that.

I think all in all, this whole experience of name calling, ridicule, put downs, teasing, insults, etc - the biggest impact it has had on me is that it made me believe I am simply not good enough. I was so confident and had high opinion of myself before all of that.

It would appear therefore that my self consciousness over my appearance is very very unfair and the fact I wouldn't accept myself if I had any visible flaws is just wrong. This has to be addressed, I am living life believing I am like believing I am a freak just because I have a few flaws, but its human nature to have flaws, no one is perfect. I have to change these beliefs that everyone is so judgemental and is critical of me, I have to change believing I am simply inadequate and not good enough which I described. These things simply have to be corrected if I am to have confidence in myself, rather than previously me believing I had to desensitise my flaws, but that will not work, its not my flaws that are the problem here.

The plan is once I gain confidence in myself and to not be self conscious and thinking of myself in such a negative, inadequate, inferior way to people, I will automatically be a million times more confident, I will not be doubting myself, will not be self aware, focusing on my flaws, I will hopefully start accepting myself and liking who I am properly, gaining a higher opinion of myself.

Then once I feel I have done that I can work on my other problems that have developed purely from avoidance because of how I felt about myself.

I believe a lot of people will not be able to relate to what I say, but I am sure some will. The thinking patterns that have developed definitely in my opinion need to be tracked back to their roots and totally analysed and understood as to why it was wrong and in place of that a new way of seeing the whole wider picture from the start with the aim of keep understanding and working on why the current beliefs are wrong and why a new way of thinking is right. It will take work but I am very positive these can be overcome. But before - how could they be overcome when I didn't know what needed correcting.
 

charlieHungerford

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Really interesting reply shyguy, I cannot reply properly now as I am at work, but I will reply in full tonight. I think there is a lot of interesting things you mention in how you were treated that is still very much in your mind now, is that fair to say? I have some thoughts I will share later. But I do feel this is something that could really help in overcoming SA and has to be addressed. I mean I think most people will agree that in order to overcome SA, we really do have to think differently about the things that are causing the problems and these beliefs and the trouble is that these thoughts are not even thought about or considered because the beliefs are never ever questioned because they are so deep rooted and taken to be true from years back and on top of that has been loads of thinking and experiences, behaviour based on this thinking, so it seems so accurate. But if you don't change these beliefs, I really don't think you can properly overcome the problem. But they are only thoughts and beliefs, they can be changed, its just finding the problematic thoughts that are causing the problems that need changing is difficult because they appear real to us until you discover that they are not.

Thanks for your comments on my thoughts about my own issues too - its like a reassurance that I am probably on the right tracks when people believe its right. But of course its different for everyone, I didn't realise how differently people suffered with SA.

I will reply in full tonight in response to your comments.
 
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