For those who are self conscious about perceived flaws...

charlieHungerford

Well-known member
I am just wondering do you think of your flaws in a far, far more negative way than the way you see flaws in other people?

I mean I don't look at people critically at all, if someone is overweight, is bald, has big ears, nose or chin, or if someone is not intelligent, is quiet or lacks confidence, etc I don't think negatively of them, I still think they are normal and better than me - because I don't place a negative value on them, whilst I do place a negative value of myself.

Does anyone else feel like that?

If so, surely one huge key to gaining confidence and overcoming these insecurities is to understand that the way we see ourselves is just totally wrong, unfair, exaggerated, etc. We cannot look at ourselves in one totally negative way and see others in a totally fair and positive way. Do you agree there is something very wrong here that needs addressing?
 

Jack-B

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Charlie

You can address your faults/flaws but you dont need to punish yourself for them. Faults are temporary.

The faults you see in yourself are part of your mind.

You dont see faults in others or choose not to negatively see faults in others because that part of your mind, perceiving others, thinks that the way they are has nothing to do with your mind at all.

The faults of others are also part of your mind. When they seem selfish, this is a fault, but you choose not to see it because your mind is not focusing negatively on that aspect of the person. This is what you are doing with yourself. Does this make sense?

The way we view ourself and others is wrong. It does not make sense. Its unrealistic and unhelpful. Those who are wise, like yourself are challenging this view, in time your view will change. Keep at it.

Jack
 

J_

Member
Ah yes, reminds me of a saying, something along the lines of :

no-one can make you feel bad without your permission.

or

YOU are in control of your own thoughts and emotions.
 

blackcap

Well-known member
Re: For those who are self conscious about perceived flaws..

charlieHungerford said:
I am just wondering do you think of your flaws in a far, far more negative way than the way you see flaws in other people?

I mean I don't look at people critically at all, if someone is overweight, is bald, has big ears, nose or chin, or if someone is not intelligent, is quiet or lacks confidence, etc I don't think negatively of them, I still think they are normal and better than me - because I don't place a negative value on them, whilst I do place a negative value of myself.

Does anyone else feel like that?

Not me. I may be slightly harder on myself than I am of others, but I do look at others critically as well. I find with other people's flaws, although I may find them annoying, they actually make me feel better about myself (unless I share the same flaws of course!). It's a quality I don't like about myself (or in others). I wish I wasn't critical of myself or others at all - I would certainly be happier for it!
 

sunshinemel

New member
One of the secrets of happiness in life is love unconditionally, ourselves and others! Its a bit hard, at least for me, but I will definitely aspire to achieve it, as it would lead me to a better life i suppose......

Another point is Charlie, maybe you have an inner voice which tend to be more judging or critical on yourself(like myself) due to your family background, if we could replace that inner voice into a warm, nice and supportive voice, it may make difference....
 

smof

Member
I have always viewed myself negatively and others positively. But recently I think I've started projecting my negative view of myself onto other people. I start perceiving them as having all the traits I don't want to have in myself. Which is bad, because it's making me very hostile towards people. I used to be really sympathetic and patient and I'm losing that.
 

charlieHungerford

Well-known member
Thanks for some interesting replies. I think this is actually the key to me overcoming SA, I really do believe it holds so much importance for the way I suffer. I think the main reason I feel so much more negative about my own flaws (compared to other people's) and why they are so out of tune with other people's flaws is because at high school I suffered so many put downs, name calling, ridicule, insults, etc, etc, over 5 years, and I was made to feel like my flaws were so terrible as people made me feel like crap because of them so have believed there is something very wrong with me, whereas when I see people's flaws its just a flaw and no one is perfect so its no big deal.

As I sit here at work I can see about 12 people around me. I think I would only describe 2 of these people as 'good looking'. I can see three people who are noticably overweight, 3 who are bald, 2 who are plain looking and 1 with bad skin and 1 has bad teeth. Now I don't say that to be mean because I don't think or look badly at any of those people - I can see flaws but they mean nothing, I like all of them personally, but that is basically the way I judge myself - on my flaws. The question is - if I looked like any of those who had flaws - i.e. those who are either noticably overweight, bald or very plain looking but who I accept as being fine and good enough, would I accept myself if I looked like them, would I accept a swap to look like them instead of myself? Would I no longer be self conscious and feel inadequate? I think the answer for myself is that I still would be insecure and self conscious but only IF and I emphasise IF - I have received the same feedback over a number of years over the flaws which have made me feel so worthless and like I am some sort of freak because of them. So, it kind of seems like there is more to it than simply believing my flaws aren't that bad, because even people I accept as being fine I don't believe I would accept if I was them, and that is down to my beliefs about me having flaws. So there is something here that really does need sorting out. I simply cannot ever become confident or believe I am good enough whilst I think this way.

I simply cannot ever become confident or overcome SA until I change the way I think here. I mean I avoid women because I feel worthless and inferior compared to women because of how I feel about my perceived flaws, I avoid situations where I have to be a good speaker as I am so aware of my flaws in speaking and feel I cannot do it.

If I am to get confident and overcome SA I need to really make changes to how I think. I need to make some compromises and sacrifices and accept my flaws but not be self conscious about them. Because what does it achieve to think negative of yourself for flaws that you cannot change? It acheives nothing positive. I am just making myself feel so bad about myself for something I had no control over. Its wrong.

I am off next week to work at beating this. There is a lot to consider and maybe it would be best to tackle this from the end goal of how I need to feel about myself and work at changing the way I see things in order to think that way. But I will need to address my current mindset on all of this in order to aim to stop thinking that way.

But I feel very positive that I can overcome this. Its something that can only be overcoming be analysing current beliefs/way of thinking and breaking them down and understanding what is wrong behind the scenes of this thinking and changing these and developing new ways to see these.
 
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