Effects on children, hypnotherapy & NPS.

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Hi everyone, I have suffered with depression and SP since a young girl (saw my first psychologist age 7), I'm now 32. Life has been a hard struggle and I am shocked I'm still here! I now have something to keep me going, my 2 year old son. Unfortunately I fear my problems are effecting him, and this is torture for me. I'm so desperate that I'm trying to muster the courage to ask the doctor for help, yet again. Is anyone else in a similar position?
I would also like to ask others of their experience with hypnotherapy; and opinions of the National Phobics Society...I will be willing to pay the £16 annual membership cost if I receive positive opinions.
Please, any input will be of help. Thank you.
 

outside_looking_in

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Hey fatboy, nervous parents unite! I find there are so many practicalities to focus on with kids, that it helps in social situations ... you can interrupt a conversation at any point when you're in danger of freezing up to ask your child what they're doing, are they all right etc! :D
Can you face going to a toddler group with your son? Or else take him to a good private nursery a couple of afternoons a week--that way he'd get used to a busy social environment and interacting (and if it's a nursery you won't have to stay and suffer it! ... I read that being at nursery from an early age prevents a lot of problems fitting in that only-children can otherwise suffer with (book was interviews with adult only-children). My kids went one or two half days a week from the age of one, and it was great for them, honestly). Plus grandparents, aunties etc are great for 'socialising' practice -- so long as you don't have too different ideas on TV and sweets! :evil:

My seven-year-old commented a few weeks ago that all the other mums at school seemed to know each other except me, which was the first time I realised he'd definitely noticed my problem, and shortly after he burst into tears before we went to a neighbour's because he knew I've had trouble getting on with them. So I gave him lots of cuddles and reassurance and convinced him (and myself!) that the problem was now resolved, the fact we were invited meant it was all OK, and although there's a strong possibility of the problem recurring (this person brings out my very worst panicky tactlessness!) we both now know we've made up before and understand each other a little better for it. And we went over, and both had an OK time (though i was a bit uncomfortable :oops: ).

So I'd say: get your kid into safe social situations, with or without you (without is okay); as soon as you think he's old enough explain that some things are not difficult for everyone, but difficult for you, but you are doing your best to deal with them, and he can help. Kids love helping! And my younger one is such a strong character that she's totally unaffected by any of my sensitivities. Or requests or orders, come to that ... :?
 
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Outside_looking_in, thank you for your advice.

I have taken my son to SoftPlay on a few occasions. Here the gym is so big, and there is no pressure to talk to other parents, but I still get panicky. I even attended the local playgroup once, but this was too much for me. I cannot bear the thought that people can see I have a problem.
Three months ago I started to take him to pre-school, and as he is not yet three , I have to stay with him. This was ok to begin with, but got harder and harder. Last week I practicaly ran out of there on the pretence he was ill. Now I feel a fool, and worry about people talking about me.
So maybe I should take him to a private nursery where I don't need to stay. I have never given this serious thought before, as I wanted him to attend locally to get to know local kids. But this might be my only alternative.
I agree with you, that in certain situations, you can 'hide' behind your children. But I also think that my SP is more noticeable now because there is so much pressure to do sociable things with the them. I used to be able to run and hide, now I feel like I'm in the spotlight.
Your children sound older now, I would be interested to know further how you coped. Also, when you tell poeple about SP, how do they react?
 

outside_looking_in

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Really glad if that's some help to you ... another good thing about the private nursery mine went to is that for the younger kids they write down everything they ate, played with, etc on a daily sheet, so you don't have to stand there asking the staff everything! (older ones are supposed to tell you themselves ... not always very efficient)

I also ought to mention the social work-run Child and Family Centre we went to for a while (don't know if there's quite the same thing outside Scotland though). Referred by health visitor, staff were fabulously supportive-- and I met several other mums with problems from self-harming to panic attacks and depression, all lovely people suffering to various degrees. A couple of them I still see, along with their kids.

I used to find Little Gym a nightmare--songs with actions (aaaaaaaah :oops: ) then helping your child round the apparatus. I remember being cut dead a lot when I lamely tried to interact with other parents :(

Does your son enjoy pre-school, or is he picking up on your mood? I did have to stop taking my boy swimming after successfully transferring my fear of water to him! (again, my outgoing daughter is oblivious, and loves the water)

I've never been diagnosed with SP (only realised I had it on discovering this site two weeks ago!) so I just tell people, when I freeze up or start mumbling, that I'm a) tired, b) preoccupied or c) find conversations a bit difficult, depending on how well I know them. The reaction to c) is usually either "don't be silly" (not very helpful) or "I feel similar in x situation" ... puts me a bit more at ease.

Do you tell people--and if so, what do they say? (that should be a new thread I suppose)

I wasn't so bad when mine were younger ... I was on a real high after my son was born and he's a sunny wee soul (most of the time). Then my daughter was quite ill for a couple of years and between all the practicalities of caring for her, numbness due to lack of sleep and lots of cheerful sympathy being offered, got through that as well. I suppose now things have levelled out again it's come back to the surface! My son's teacher got annoyed with me writing notes to her, and told me to make appointments to see her instead ... might have to explain to her, especially as her annoyance just multiplied my nervousness of her.

This is already far too long for one reply (I work in editing, can't you tell?)... but look forward to hearing back from you. And good luck with the nurseries, do say how you get on 8)
 
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Hi outside_looking_in,

The Child & Family Centre sounds like the sort of help I could do with. I need to talk about SP, nobody 'close' to me knows. Of course my behaviour is not normal at times, and I wonder what people think of me to the point of paranoia.

I have actually been diagnosed with depression and social anxiety, about 5-6 years ago. When I was 7 I had 'behavioural problems'. I have had plenty of opportunities to see psychologists, psychiatrists and counselors etc etc, but wasted them (just could not make myself go after 1 or 2 visits). Now for my son I want to ask for CBT, and do whatever it takes.

Yes my son enjoys pre-school very much. He seems shy and a liitle odd with other children his own age (fine if older). But this just might be my distorted goggle view.
I know what you mean about Little Gym, tried to take my son to similar venues.

I will let you know how I get on next week at the nursery. Also going to speak to health visitor.

Take care :)
 

outside_looking_in

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I wouldn't worry too much about interactions between two year olds, they just play alongside rather than with each other at that age. That's a really good sign if he gets on well with older kids. :D

I know the things I've suggested sound like avoidance rather than tackling your SP, but the first rule of parenthood is don't make things harder for yourself than you have to! The energy you save not having to endure a nursery session might be very useful later in an unavoidable situation. Be kind to yourself and do lots of the things you DO enjoy with him! :D
An educational psychologist I saw when i was 8 or so said I would "never achieve my full potential due to lack of confidence." Well full marks for the self fulfilling prophecy! :(

I did try a hypnotherapist a few years ago, to try and tackle my "tactlessness" (hadn't heard of SA then). She delved around in my childhood for abuse and things (which weren't there), worked through a couple of very minor issues that came up, and said there was no point going on! Depends so much on the individual therapist though. I get occasional reiki from a lovely inspiring and perceptive lady which helps more. :)
 

JeSs42790

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Hi,
I realize this post is a few days old...but i couldn't resist. I have recently gone through hypnotherapy and would recommend it to EVERYONE who suffers from Sp **whether it works for or not...i can't garuntee**. I have PTSD **post tramatic stress disorder** depression, seperation anxiety and SP...and WOW...did it work wonders....I feel like i'm a new person, like i can take off that "mask" i've been hiding behind and be me, plain and simple me. It made me realize that even though i did loose someone very close, it doesn't mean it was my fault, that clinging to my mother won't change a d**** thing if something were to happen to her. I owe a lot to it, along with my therapist, it's just great that's all i can say about it.

For those who don't know EXACTLY what it is, it's not when someone "puts you to sleep", more of a relaxed state, focused on the person and your thoughts. Then he walks you through certain details of the past that he thinks are effecting you. It's not the same for everyone obviously, but it is definitly something i would look into if i were you.

Sorry for writing this SO late...but lie i said, couldn't resist!
Jess
 
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