Beyond fight or flight - what happened to me?

racheH

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Wondered if anyone might be able to shed some light on an incident in an Art lesson when something was going on that was actually my worst irrational fear, but which I've never divulged, on account of never having seen it mentioned by anyone else and not having a clue how to explain it. What's significant is, that it was something that is completely out of my control, unlike talking to people etc, and where the only thing to do was to excuse myself from the situation as much as possible without arousing suspicion and just sit it out for the rest of the time.

Basically, it was especially bad that lesson, which was a double so I knew I was there for the long haul, and my stress was rising so much that I didn’t think I could physically control my symptoms for much longer. I expect many people here know the dilemma of whether or not to run away and face three times the disapproval later; that’s what I was feeling. Desperate to escape somehow.

Just as the situation took a sudden turn for the worst, my mind and my fear both stopped. I felt and knew nothing. :| My senses were working, as afterwards I could remember vaguely where I had been looking and what was said. However, at the time, there was no mental or emotional response to any of it. This lasted for maybe 15 seconds, until the worst part of the situation had played out.

Now some time ago I saw a program which featured a story of a woman who had fallen out of a window, hung on for a while, then dropped with surprisingly few injuries. It described a state of mind where the brain decides that your best hope of escaping serious damage is to completely relax your body and mind. By preventing panic, you won’t put yourself in worse danger, and by relaxing your muscles, any accidents will be less severe. Having already experienced a typical adrenaline rush, this woman went completely calm and let go.

I’ve been thinking about it. That survival technique would only be useful at times when your best bet is to do absolutely nothing, which must be quite rare. The worst that could have resulted from that situation would have been whatever my irrational emotions could do. If what happened to me was what was described on TV, doesn’t that imply that my brain actually thought I might kill myself with fear? It’s not unknown – young, healthy people can literally be scared to death, but I can only think of one time, when a girl was convinced she was going to die – tied by the neck to a post halfway down a huge well, and of course she didn’t have the option of relaxing and letting go.

I wondered if this has happened to anyone else or if anyone can name the mystery phenomenon for me, as I’ve looked but can’t find anything about it. :?
Thanks
 

GettingThere

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An interesting experience.

I wish I could shed some light on it for you but I can't. The experience almost sounds like it had a spiritual orogin (if you believe in the like).
 

racheH

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Hmm it's funny, I never thought of that! Yet I usually consider the spiritual significance of even mundane things... :?
I was inclined to think it another trick of my brain. Maybe it just wasn't the right time for me to finally freak out in front of everyone, or to give myself a heart attack, lol.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll certainly give it some thought :)
 

GettingThere

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You are welcome.

Speaking of things spiritual - this probably does not fit the thread but oh well - I was reading the blurb on one of the drugs which is prescribed for SAD (I can't remember which one) and the makers of it listed a symptom which some suffered from as a feeling of detachment from the body.

I found that to be really interesting, a pharmacuetical company basically listing out-of-body experiences as a side effect sometimes experienced.
Somewhere on this site there is a thread in which someone speaks of this very same drug-related experience.
 

racheH

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Yeah I would call it a feeling of detachment - but more from thoughts and emotions than from my body. I was still in the same physical place, because I can remember what direction I was facing and what was said - it's just that my mind wasn't interpreting what was happening at the time. I take 'out of body experience' to be more literal, as in witnessing yourself apparently leaving your body.

I didn't know detachment was thought to be a symptom of SAD. Have to wonder why more people haven't mentioned it. Maybe fear of ridicule? I've read of similar symptoms from schizophrenics, the only difference being the absence of the intense emotions beforehand. Perhaps too much fear can cause the brain to malfunction - just temporarily - like in schizophrenia and drug-related illness. I'm wondering if it's also a built-in survival technique, or an accident.
Hmmm there should be a 'thoughtful' smiley. :)
 

outside_looking_in

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Hi Rache ... just to check you received a private reply I sent to you, having been unable to find your thread again since actually becoming a member. (doh) Until now! :)
 

racheH

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Yeah thanks outside_looking_in, I did get one PM from you; if you're talking about a second then I didn't. I've still got my reply to you in Word Processor luckily, so I'll send it again. If you don't get it this time, let me know and I can post both messages publicly instead. Didn't last time incase you wanted it to stay private.
Thanks :)
 
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