SP, Depression, and RELIGION...

iamantisocial · Jun 18, 2006

... Ive browsed through these forums and seen some religious posts in here and people reciting prayers or tryin to compose em or somethin...

I dont get it tho. How does religion help in problems? Anybody explain this to me? Thanks.

Scottish_Player · Jun 18, 2006

iamantisocial said:
I dont get it tho. How does religion help in problems? Anybody explain this to me? Thanks.

I think it helps people in diffrent ways.

For me perosnaly i was born Roman Catholic, althouh iam not deeply into it i still have my beliefs. For example God/Jesus are always there when i need someone to talk to, they listen to me in the lonely hours of the night when there is no one else to talk to.

Iam not one of those people who only talks to God when things go wrong, i do say thanks when things are going well and let him know that iam greatful for what i have and what he has given me. I know this may not make sense to non-belivers but its just something i need to give me some kind of hope and belief in life and something to keep me strong

Mary · Jun 18, 2006

Hello! For me its not so much that religion helps in problems its more of my relationship W/Jesus Christ that helps in problems. When you have a relationship its different from a religion. You can be in church and do all the rituals but not have Jesus in your heart, not know Him at all. It's like everybody knows about their president, they at least know who he is but they don't know him personally. They can't just go up to his house w/out getting stopped by security. It's the same w/God, a lot of people have heard about God and Jesus and whether they believe or not, they know the story, they have heard about him, but many don't know Him. They just know OF HIM. Sometimes people in church are that way too.
But when you invite Jesus to come into your life and you repent of your sins and give your life over to Him, (and mean it) something happens. He comes! He is with you! You feel him in every fiber of your being. You know something has changed inside of you. He becomes your friend, your helper, your counsellor. The bible says He walks with you and is beside you, He tells you turn this way or don't go that way. He guides you in life. Sure there are still problems but there is now a hope for them. You can have a problem and not suffer endlessly from it. There is a peace that surpasses all understanding. Which means even though there is a problem you can still have peace IN it. 8O I have experienced that myself. One time my hubby lost his job due to a car accident (that wasn't his fault) and everything looked really bad for us..we had no money, rent was going to be due and now he had no job. Yet the strangest thing happened. I should have been freaking out but God gave me this powerful peace..I just knew everything was going to work out. Even though everything said the opposite. And it did. I won't go into all the details of how (long story) but God did a miracle for us.
But what has really changed me, above anything else is feeling personally God's love for me. Feeling and knowing for sure 2 things, God is real and He loves me more than anyone ever could. It isn't something that can be explained or described but that needs to be experienced for yourself, but once you do, then you will have no more doubts. At least not about Him.

crescent · Jun 20, 2006

It is something that is so difficult to explain, but need to be experienced yourself. And I agree with Mary, it's not about religion thing, but personal relationship with God. To me, I have long years when I didn't know what's wrong with me, I couldn't talk to anyone about my problem cause I don't think anyone would understand, my fear is so trivial but yet I couldn't understand what it is, how much more talking about it to others, so I only talked to God, and He never dissapointed me. Even when I only came to Him when I have problem and soon forget about Him when the problem dissapeared.
But those years when I took Him for granted didn't help me much in my progress for my SA. Only the past one and a half year when I decided to have closer relationship with God is what helped me. I started to read more about Him, pray more to Him, be generous with my time to God, and God is never outdone in generosity. He slowly open for me the secrets of the Kingdom of God. Sure the problem don't go overnight, in fact we must be very patient with God and let Him decide what is best for us. We only think temporarily, but He thinks what is good for us eternally. And problem is not incompatible with our good. Maybe this doesn't make sense, but it's true. He might not take away your problem, but He changed the way you look at it, such that it becomes easier for you, or it might not matter much for you anymore.

Scottish_Player · Jun 20, 2006

This is an excellent poem about God, most of you may have seen it but here it is for those who havent- - Can also be found here http://www.llerrah.com/footprints.htm

Footprints in the Sand

One night a man had a dream. He dreamed
he was walking along the beach with the LORD.

Across the sky flashed scenes from his life.
For each scene he noticed two sets of
footprints in the sand: one belonging
to him, and the other to the LORD.

When the last scene of his life flashed before him,
he looked back at the footprints in the sand.

He noticed that many times along the path of
his life there was only one set of footprints.

He also noticed that it happened at the very
lowest and saddest times in his life.

This really bothered him and he
questioned the LORD about it:

"LORD, you said that once I decided to follow
you, you'd walk with me all the way.
But I have noticed that during the most
troublesome times in my life,
there is only one set of footprints.
I don't understand why when
I needed you most you would leave me."

The LORD replied:

"My son, my precious child,
I love you and I would never leave you.
During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints,
it was then that I carried you."

GIOLANDA · Jun 20, 2006

It's what Mary said,God helps,not religion. In fact,God never talked about religion and He isn't a religion at all. God is all the good things,when we pray to Him,he calms our heart and the Bbible has a lot of abstracts that can calm anybody.

Quixote · Jun 20, 2006

Well I suppose first of all you have to decide that you believe in the existence of this supernatural entity caring for human beings and their life and their souls, included yours. Once you accept that, it is not difficult to imagine how it may help you cope with any problem.

It's an unusual question to hear actually, for most people born in countries where bible-based faith has been historically prevalent, like europe or the middle east. It is obvious to us. But I can imagine it must look slightly odd when seen from other cultures though (do I remember right that you are from Asia antisocial?)

Just for the record, I am not a believer, so I don't get any help from it.

iamantisocial · Jun 20, 2006

This is an excellent poem about God, most of you may have seen it but here it is for those who havent- - Can also be found here http://www.llerrah.com/footprints.htm

Footprints in the Sand

...
"My son, my precious child,
I love you and I would never leave you.
During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints,
it was then that I carried you."
...

... ok... so God carried me when I was laughed at as a little kid and got beaten up so bad many times... when I was always alone and had to eat in the fucking bathroom cuz I was afraid of the other kids? Ok... God was beside me in the bathroom now... what was he doing? looking at my pee-pee? I was sitting on the toilet and shovin the food in my mouth. Not peeing or shitting... I heard he's got x-ray vision or somethin and he can see everything...

... ok... so God was carrying me when I was given the death blow by this girl who destroyed my fuckin heart? So for two weeks when I was going really crazy and punching a hole in the wall... and contemplating suicide... he was there...

Ok... I love God so much cuz he's so cool!!! THANK YOU FOR CREATING ME IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Thank you for giving me these very loving parents who always scream at me and hurt me... Thank you for giving me these wonderful caring classmates who would always pay attention to me and say mean things. Thank you for making me meet this girl whom I thought loved me but didnt. Thank you!!! Thank you for allowing me to experience hell on earth!!! Thank you for makin life so fucking hard that I am already near my fuckin breaking point!!!

:roll:

It's an unusual question to hear actually, for most people born in countries where bible-based faith has been historically prevalent, like europe or the middle east. It is obvious to us. But I can imagine it must look slightly odd when seen from other cultures though (do I remember right that you are from Asia antisocial?)

I am from Asia. Philippines to be exact. And since the Philippines is just a little third world asian country that isnt really a big deal in world politics... lemme tell you a little bit about it.

The Philippines was under Spanish rule for 300 years. The Spaniards destroyed our culture... tortured and imprisoned alot of people... but at the same time, managed to spread Catholicism to our shores.

That was a long time ago btw... and Philippine and Spanish relations right now are pretty cool. Our presidents meet up and have a cup of coffee here and there...

And to cut the story short, the Philippines is now a beacon of Catholicism in Asia. To the Catholic Church, that country is one of the sources where they import priests in order to tend to the flock in the western world... since everybody wanna get laid and nobody wanna be a priest over here in America.

So therefore, I'm a baptized Catholic. Not just any baptized one, but a devout and fanatical one. I used to pray everyday... kneel down... go to church everyday... and go to confession every week.

Not until my fanatical devotion was rewarded... with more pain and more suffering. So I'm like... uhhh... is there God?

I'm an ex-catholic. Everytime I go to church, I feel angry. Tho I'm still open for dialogue. I've been praying to God since I was little to give me friends... and so far it seems to be too big a favor I'm asking. So I changed it and told him to completely erase my heart. I wanna be as hard as a fuckin rock with no fuckin emotions.

I wanna be laughing when I'm supposed to cry. Thats what I'm praying for right now and I will believe that there is God if that is given... I mean... taken away from me. Take away my heart... Take away my craving for friendships, relationships, etc... Take away my ability to give and receive love. Because it only hurts me.

I dont care if you put me in hell in the end... Just take away my ability to give and receive love. Then I will believe that you exist.

GIOLANDA · Jun 21, 2006

I see that you've had many problems in your life and that you have many complaints from God too,but one simple question,have you been close to Him? Have you asked for His help? God knows everyone and sees everything,but He can't be mixed in your life if you don't want Him. Everyone is free,those who choose to believe in Him,can see His presence in their lives. But having God doesn't mean that you won't have problems,but that you'll have someone who will help you to overcome them. And He always helps,many ppl can say that all over the world. So,you can pray to Him and then see if you feel better.

Mary · Jun 21, 2006

I have been physically and verbally abused by my father,and my mother blamed me for it.. 8O At school I was ridiculed and made fun of, everyday I would come home crying, every day. You don't know or can't imagine the damage this did to me emotionally for years. I was full of hatred and anger. Yes, I even blamed God for it all as well. For a while I felt like I was praying and nobody was listening.
But I know now that God was listening and God did and does care. It was that I wasn't listening to Him. There is bad in this world as well as good. There is evil and for many years that was all I really knew for sure was real; evil.
But that is not God. I didn't know God. I knew hatred, I knew anger, I knew fear. I didn't know unconditional love and mercy or forgiveness. I felt self righteous for a long time. I blamed everyone else for everything that was wrong and refused to see any wrong in myself.
But there was wrong in myself. Yes my dad hit me but I hated him, daily I murdered him in my mind. Honestly the only reason why I never killed him was fear of jail. I hated the man. And that was wrong. It was wrong of my dad to hit me but my hate was wrong as well. I have known people who have been abused but don't hate their abuser. I wasn't one of them.
When Jesus was dying on that cross, w/people spitting at him and making fun of him, not to mention the torture he had endured, he looked at them and said, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.." That is why I was wrong for hating my father. When I asked God to help me forgive my father, He did. He removed all that hate and I was left w/peace. I don't look at my dad the way I once did. I can see him w/compassion now.
I look back on my past and realize that while I was suffering God helped me..I survived it. Now He has blessed me in more ways than I can even count. My life could have ended years ago but it hasn't. I am still here, I still have a chance to grow and change. I don't blame God for the bad that happened, I know it wasn't Him that caused it, But I do credit Him with all the good that He has done for me now. He fixed all the pain of my past, He helped me heal. He allowed me to feel the great love of a father that I had never known. He showed me that although I suffered, Jesus suffered too, horribly on a cross for me, and for you. He showed me that He is not the one who causes pain in our lives, sometimes it's the devil, sometimes its ourselves.
He helped me bring down the wall that was keeping me from him. To humble myself and acknowledge my mistakes and my sin. To ask for help and forgiveness. I am nothing special and once I realized that, God could step in and work w/me. What he did for me He wants to do for us all. :wink:

crescent · Jun 21, 2006

iamantisocial said:
This is an excellent poem about God, most of you may have seen it but here it is for those who havent- - Can also be found here http://www.llerrah.com/footprints.htm

Footprints in the Sand

...
"My son, my precious child,
I love you and I would never leave you.
During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints,
it was then that I carried you."
...

Click to expand...

... ok... so God carried me when I was laughed at as a little kid and got beaten up so bad many times... when I was always alone and had to eat in the fucking bathroom cuz I was afraid of the other kids? Ok... God was beside me in the bathroom now... what was he doing? looking at my pee-pee? I was sitting on the toilet and shovin the food in my mouth. Not peeing or shitting... I heard he's got x-ray vision or somethin and he can see everything...

... ok... so God was carrying me when I was given the death blow by this girl who destroyed my fuckin heart? So for two weeks when I was going really crazy and punching a hole in the wall... and contemplating suicide... he was there...

Ok... I love God so much cuz he's so cool!!! THANK YOU FOR CREATING ME IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Thank you for giving me these very loving parents who always scream at me and hurt me... Thank you for giving me these wonderful caring classmates who would always pay attention to me and say mean things. Thank you for making me meet this girl whom I thought loved me but didnt. Thank you!!! Thank you for allowing me to experience hell on earth!!! Thank you for makin life so fucking hard that I am already near my fuckin breaking point!!!

:roll:

It's an unusual question to hear actually, for most people born in countries where bible-based faith has been historically prevalent, like europe or the middle east. It is obvious to us. But I can imagine it must look slightly odd when seen from other cultures though (do I remember right that you are from Asia antisocial?)

Click to expand...

I am from Asia. Philippines to be exact. And since the Philippines is just a little third world asian country that isnt really a big deal in world politics... lemme tell you a little bit about it.

The Philippines was under Spanish rule for 300 years. The Spaniards destroyed our culture... tortured and imprisoned alot of people... but at the same time, managed to spread Catholicism to our shores.

That was a long time ago btw... and Philippine and Spanish relations right now are pretty cool. Our presidents meet up and have a cup of coffee here and there...

And to cut the story short, the Philippines is now a beacon of Catholicism in Asia. To the Catholic Church, that country is one of the sources where they import priests in order to tend to the flock in the western world... since everybody wanna get laid and nobody wanna be a priest over here in America.

So therefore, I'm a baptized Catholic. Not just any baptized one, but a devout and fanatical one. I used to pray everyday... kneel down... go to church everyday... and go to confession every week.

Not until my fanatical devotion was rewarded... with more pain and more suffering. So I'm like... uhhh... is there God?

I'm an ex-catholic. Everytime I go to church, I feel angry. Tho I'm still open for dialogue. I've been praying to God since I was little to give me friends... and so far it seems to be too big a favor I'm asking. So I changed it and told him to completely erase my heart. I wanna be as hard as a fuckin rock with no fuckin emotions.

I wanna be laughing when I'm supposed to cry. Thats what I'm praying for right now and I will believe that there is God if that is given... I mean... taken away from me. Take away my heart... Take away my craving for friendships, relationships, etc... Take away my ability to give and receive love. Because it only hurts me.

I dont care if you put me in hell in the end... Just take away my ability to give and receive love. Then I will believe that you exist.

I see, you have had such a hard life and it's really difficult to see the existence of God especially after you have devoted yourself to God before. But if you believe there is heaven and hell, then you should believe that this suffering will have an end and you will be rewarded in heaven, but that's not going to be when you are apart from God and live in bitterness. I know it's unrealistic to wait until we die to be happy, we definitely need a sustenance in this world. Maybe you can read the lives of the saints that went through the same thing and learn from them how to face such life favorable to God. In fact, if you see most saints have had a difficult and even tragic life, they are so familiar with suffering, but yet God favored them. I remember God said once to St Teresa of Avila that He gives more trials to those whom He loves more and love responds to these. So please don't give up on God.

dzerklis · Jun 21, 2006

i cant resist.. there was a brilliant episode in a mediocre movie i dont remember the title, the main character was in a church and had to give a speech and he said following words:

the world is full of evil. if god CANT prevent evil, it means he actually isnt god cos he isnt almighty. if god DOESNT WANT TO prevent evil, it means he's evil himself. but maybe god BOTH CANT AND DOESNT WANT TO prevent evil? if so then fvck such god.

Ladpanic · Jun 21, 2006

iamantisocial said:
... Ive browsed through these forums and seen some religious posts in here and people reciting prayers or tryin to compose em or somethin...

I dont get it tho. How does religion help in problems? Anybody explain this to me? Thanks.

Hi I am new here.

Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld

Hebrews 11:1

Faith gives us hope and helps to strengenth us even in our darkest hour. Also knowing we can turn to God for help brings inner peace.

I hope this helps.

iamantisocial · Jun 21, 2006

I see that you've had many problems in your life and that you have many complaints from God too,but one simple question,have you been close to Him?

I've had doglike extremist loyalty to God. I've had fantasies about being in the time of the crusades and fighting the Muslims... Yea Ive had those fantasies cuz back in my home country, there are Islamic insurgents in the south who would bomb and behead people... One time, they captured 12 soldiers and beheaded them because the Philippine government did not agree to destroy all Christian churches in the south... Yea I hated em... so I had such fantasies...

Back in one of my old jobs, I almost punched a muslim in the mouth because he said that Mohammad is the greatest prophet of God... and Jesus is just a small fry... and the usual Islam is the true religion... I didnt hit him cuz I might get fired from the job... But I really wanted to knock his teeth out.

In school, there was this jew who said that Jesus is just an offshoot traitor to Judaism, the "real religion"... and Jesus is somewhere in hell boiling in goat semen... I got really angry and I wanted to punch this jew's lights out. I didnt do it cuz I might get expelled from college.

I used to go all over the internet and start flame wars with atheists regarding God and the bible and been tellin em to go to hell or callin em satanists blablabla, etc...

so you see... everytime somebody dissed the God I worshipped, I got angry and wanted to physically assault the person. I also prayed the rosary everyday and went to mass every single day. Even in my old school where the fuckin hypocrites would call on me that I'm goin to mass because I'm just there to cool off, look at the paintings, and smell the good environment of the chapel...

I always felt guilt for the slightest misdeed Ive done. Oh I lied... Omg I'm goin to hell... Oh I maturbated again... I'm goin to hell... NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I also went to pilgrimages all the time, done stations of the cross often... and all the extra not-required stuff of the Catholic Church.

But now... this recent davinci code thing... I just laugh at the whole thing. Davinci code is fiction... So could be the bible...

So there. I'm a former DOG of the Catholic Church. An ex-jedi-knight-supreme-crusader and defender of the bible!!! :lol:

If God really cares about his lost dog... er... sheep... whatever... If God really fuckin cares about me, just take away my desire to be loved and be accepted. Take away my craving for love. And I will be your dog once again.

Quixote · Jun 21, 2006

The Philippines was under Spanish rule for 300 years. The Spaniards destroyed our culture... tortured and imprisoned alot of people... but at the same time, managed to spread Catholicism to our shores.

Oh I see, I thought you were from India or China, as you seemed to actually wonder what was christianity all about. But I see now that it was just a sarcastic remark.

I do know about the philippines having been a spanish colony. It was also under american rule for a few decades after that if I remember right.

As for the rest that you say, I think you look like you are developing a better, more rational, understanding of yourself, which is a necessary condition for improvement. Not everyone is able to look at his past actions and beliefs in such a detached manner as you do.
If I can allow myself to give some advice, though, I think the next step should be trying to get rid of all this anger that you seem to hold inside. Don't fool yourself into thinking that "you will need to be tough" or similar ideas. Being tough is useful indeed, but in a modern society it is best done by keeping calm and rationally pursuing your interests. Violence will get you nowhere. As for social relations, it is probably not possible for a human being to be content without a minimum of them, so in my opinion you should just give up the idea of desensitizing to them.

Good luck with it

itsnotjustme · Jun 21, 2006

iamantisocial said:
I see that you've had many problems in your life and that you have many complaints from God too,but one simple question,have you been close to Him?

Click to expand...

I've had doglike extremist loyalty to God. I've had fantasies about being in the time of the crusades and fighting the Muslims... Yea Ive had those fantasies cuz back in my home country, there are Islamic insurgents in the south who would bomb and behead people... One time, they captured 12 soldiers and beheaded them because the Philippine government did not agree to destroy all Christian churches in the south... Yea I hated em... so I had such fantasies...

Back in one of my old jobs, I almost punched a muslim in the mouth because he said that Mohammad is the greatest prophet of God... and Jesus is just a small fry... and the usual Islam is the true religion... I didnt hit him cuz I might get fired from the job... But I really wanted to knock his teeth out.

In school, there was this jew who said that Jesus is just an offshoot traitor to Judaism, the "real religion"... and Jesus is somewhere in hell boiling in goat semen... I got really angry and I wanted to punch this jew's lights out. I didnt do it cuz I might get expelled from college.

I used to go all over the internet and start flame wars with atheists regarding God and the bible and been tellin em to go to hell or callin em satanists blablabla, etc...

so you see... everytime somebody dissed the God I worshipped, I got angry and wanted to physically assault the person. I also prayed the rosary everyday and went to mass every single day. Even in my old school where the fuckin hypocrites would call on me that I'm goin to mass because I'm just there to cool off, look at the paintings, and smell the good environment of the chapel...

I always felt guilt for the slightest misdeed Ive done. Oh I lied... Omg I'm goin to hell... Oh I maturbated again... I'm goin to hell... NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I also went to pilgrimages all the time, done stations of the cross often... and all the extra not-required stuff of the Catholic Church.

But now... this recent davinci code thing... I just laugh at the whole thing. Davinci code is fiction... So could be the bible...

So there. I'm a former DOG of the Catholic Church. An ex-jedi-knight-supreme-crusader and defender of the bible!!! :lol:

If God really cares about his lost dog... er... sheep... whatever... If God really fuckin cares about me, just take away my desire to be loved and be accepted. Take away my craving for love. And I will be your dog once again.

I once felt the same way you're feeling now, I was saved and then denied Him. It is the single most regrettable thing I've ever done in my life. If He was truely in your heart, then one day you'll remember the love you felt and repent greatly for cursing Him.

Mary · Jun 22, 2006

iamantisocial said:
I see that you've had many problems in your life and that you have many complaints from God too,but one simple question,have you been close to Him?

Click to expand...

I've had doglike extremist loyalty to God. I've had fantasies about being in the time of the crusades and fighting the Muslims... Yea Ive had those fantasies cuz back in my home country, there are Islamic insurgents in the south who would bomb and behead people... One time, they captured 12 soldiers and beheaded them because the Philippine government did not agree to destroy all Christian churches in the south... Yea I hated em... so I had such fantasies...

Back in one of my old jobs, I almost punched a muslim in the mouth because he said that Mohammad is the greatest prophet of God... and Jesus is just a small fry... and the usual Islam is the true religion... I didnt hit him cuz I might get fired from the job... But I really wanted to knock his teeth out.

In school, there was this jew who said that Jesus is just an offshoot traitor to Judaism, the "real religion"... and Jesus is somewhere in hell boiling in goat semen... I got really angry and I wanted to punch this jew's lights out. I didnt do it cuz I might get expelled from college.

I used to go all over the internet and start flame wars with atheists regarding God and the bible and been tellin em to go to hell or callin em satanists blablabla, etc...

so you see... everytime somebody dissed the God I worshipped, I got angry and wanted to physically assault the person. I also prayed the rosary everyday and went to mass every single day. Even in my old school where the fuckin hypocrites would call on me that I'm goin to mass because I'm just there to cool off, look at the paintings, and smell the good environment of the chapel...

I always felt guilt for the slightest misdeed Ive done. Oh I lied... Omg I'm goin to hell... Oh I maturbated again... I'm goin to hell... NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I also went to pilgrimages all the time, done stations of the cross often... and all the extra not-required stuff of the Catholic Church.

But now... this recent davinci code thing... I just laugh at the whole thing. Davinci code is fiction... So could be the bible...

So there. I'm a former DOG of the Catholic Church. An ex-jedi-knight-supreme-crusader and defender of the bible!!! :lol:

If God really cares about his lost dog... er... sheep... whatever... If God really fuckin cares about me, just take away my desire to be loved and be accepted. Take away my craving for love. And I will be your dog once again.

I'm sorry to say this but it doesn't sound like you had a relationship w/Jesus..or that you followed the bible. The other person asked if you were close to God..and you replied by saying that you were "loyal" to the point of hating others..that is not what Jesus teaches at all. He isn't about condemning others but helping them, he says to love our "enemies" as ourselves..not go on a holy crusade to destroy them. He says to "turn the other cheek". I'm not trying to offend you or anything and if I do I apologize but it really sounds as if you had a religion and not a relationship w/God. Why don't you seek after a relationship w/your creator who loves you instead of trying to "earn" his love which is freely given? You can't do enough "deeds" to ever be "worthy" enough for God and it sounds like that is what you were trying to do..He doesn't want you to be his, "Dog" but he wan'ts you to be his "Son". He doesn't want you to persecute others in His name but He want's you to love them. Most of all He wants you to accept the free gift he has given to the world, That of his only son dying on a cross and suffering to pay the price for your sins and mine. Your desire that you want God to take away, for love and acceptance, isn't something you should wish to be taken away fr. you but its something that can be filled by none other than God himself. Why don't you ask Him instead to show you His great love for you? I'm talking about a personal experience w/God. The bible says if you seek after him you will find Him but you must seek w/all your heart. It also says a humble and repentant heart God will not turn away.

xxx · Jun 22, 2006

I need more details

its quite intresting what u said elain :roll: can u tell us more about that issue because ,I had somthing similar few days ago, except that Iam still confused :?

elaine said:
You know I know GOD is always there when he sends me little signals and believe me this seems to happen a lot when I really need his guidance. A few days ago, I did something wrong to someone and myself, I felt very very bad about it, at the same time I wanted to do this wrong thing and because I wanted it I chose to push GOD out of the picture again to suit my own needs.

But boy was I wrong, when u accept GOD into your life, there is no more just choose him to have him when it's convenient to u. I felt so bad for what I did that I got on my hands and knees and really meant it and cried with tears flooding me. I asked GOD to help me, but at the same time I still wanted to do this bad thing I did, I still didn't go into my prayer full heartedly, I thought I did but I didn't. I'm still trying and each day it's getting stronger and stronger, I'm starting to allow GOD to fill me again and this morning when I turned on the TV I saw this documentary about the very same thing I was going thru and how wrong and damaging it is to people. I can't tell u what it is I did cause it's too personal for me but that TV documentary was something GOD sent to me to watch at that exact moment when I turned on the TV and he made sure I heard it.

God was always there for me, I just chose to shut him out, sometimes we would rather enjoy the sin and lose patience in GOD but in the end, what's more important - a temporary solution or an everlasting GOD?

Cheers and GOD bless.

jauggy · Jun 23, 2006

iamantisocial - Christian or not, you've got some serious issues. The stuff you said almost sounds made up because its so unbelievable.

LA-girl · Jun 23, 2006

Scottish_Player said:
This is an excellent poem about God, most of you may have seen it but here it is for those who havent- - Can also be found here http://www.llerrah.com/footprints.htm

Footprints in the Sand

One night a man had a dream. He dreamed
he was walking along the beach with the LORD.

Across the sky flashed scenes from his life.
For each scene he noticed two sets of
footprints in the sand: one belonging
to him, and the other to the LORD.

When the last scene of his life flashed before him,
he looked back at the footprints in the sand.

He noticed that many times along the path of
his life there was only one set of footprints.

He also noticed that it happened at the very
lowest and saddest times in his life.

This really bothered him and he
questioned the LORD about it:

"LORD, you said that once I decided to follow
you, you'd walk with me all the way.
But I have noticed that during the most
troublesome times in my life,
there is only one set of footprints.
I don't understand why when
I needed you most you would leave me."

The LORD replied:

"My son, my precious child,
I love you and I would never leave you.
During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints,
it was then that I carried you."

THANKS Scottich PLayer! I have been wanting to find this exact poem! It gets to me everytime I read it! It's so beautiful!!!!

SP, Depression, and RELIGION...

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