Hello, First post. My SAD is getting worse as I get older

mandalay

Member
Hello all... my first post. I guess I forgot I made an account here. Decided to log in and say something. Well I am 36 now. I have sad..
The best informative information I ever got was from this one site. I am sure many of you have seen it. www.socialfear.org This was tremendous help to me.

I have noticed though that it seems to get worse as I get older. Especially when the medication that I am on wares off. There have been times that I would be ok without the medication so I let it run out and feel ok for the first 2 days then all of a sudden, everything came back. Sad seems to just ruin my life. I have tried so many types of medication and I can tell you I tried pretty much all of them except Nardil. I think self education about medication and this disorder are very important.

well basically to get back on the subject... I went to a new psychologist that wanted me to try seroquel. I said sure I will give that a try since I havent tried it before. Previously I been on 6mg klonopin, 80mg of prozac and 150 of wellbutrin. All this did for me was help with the symptoms but did not give me enough courage to hold a meeting or introduce myself or give a speech. All I know is that I was better off than I was. I guess I was a little less scared.

Funny thing is when I went off of it... basically it was cold turkey and I shouldnt of done that but I thought I would be ok. I felt my symptoms got worse, like I was worse than before. My anxiety level jumped up. I guess my brain was happy with some of the chemicals it was producing by the drugs and when I stopped cold turkey it hit me like a freight train.

Well I learned my lesson. So... 100mg of seroquel is not doing anything for me. Just want to let others know. The doctor says I can go up to as high as 800 so I guess we will keep upping the dose until i feel something or it just doesnt work. Willing to try though.

So my latest panic attack episodes were when I went cold turkey and went back to work. It was so bad that I had to go to the doctor and she had told me not to stop taking the medication especially cold turkey and she gave me a note to go home for 2 days. I couldnt believe what was happening to me... I am a grown man and this stupid disorder is getting the best of me. I cant controll it. Heres proof again that I could not control it. Every Sunday my wife and I go to a church group about couples to talk about relationships.. Well I was focused on what everyone was saying and I thought I would try to participate.

When I tried I noticed that I started shaking and I had this tingling sensation and like my head or mouth was like quivering, I mean it felt like it was quivering so I stopped what I was going to say. I just ended it real quick. started to look down and up and everytime someone looked at me I looked down. I was so mad at myself. This is proof that I cannot control it. Its a big imbalance of chemicals in my brain. Here I was wanting to partcipate in a discussion then all of a sudden BAM! It starts happening and I feel like a total moron. I swear I would trade this disorder for Diabetes anyday.

Its ruining my life. I am afraid to get promoted or get promotions. I am afraid to be the center of attention so I dont attend anything socially at work. I just dont want to be noticed. Its just holding me back.

The dumbest thing is that I know for a fact that those people in the room are not going to hurt me, I have met them all before, they are friendly, just down to earth people. So why does this happen to me?????? I cannot control this without medication. I truly believe its an impairment and its not all in my head or that I am just shy or whatever....
Most of us have a chemical imbalance and we cannot make ourselves produce more dopamine, GABA, serotonin, norephrine, etc.....

Its like asking a guy who is having a heart attack to just calm down and stop it. Well he cant cause he cant control it. People that do not have this disorder also including doctors will never understand it unless they have it. Its terrible unfortunately.

Well at least the psychiatrist that I am seeing hasnt ruled out Nardil or an MAOI. Every doctor out there is so quick to prescribe an ssri that has always failed for me. They will ask do you feel better??? Well yeah because its only helping depression, not social anxiety. So they take that as an effective drug... they dont see its only helping the minor issue not the Major issue.

I am so mad at some of these drug companies that try to pass up these ssri's as anxiety drugs. From my experience none of them worked for my anxiety. They only work for the depression I had. Very few people are responders to ssri's and if they are, I am happy for them that it worked for them.

So that last panic attack was the last straw. I made it a mission to find a doctor that will prescribe what I think will help me, understanding the risks and dietary restrictions too. The ensam patch may work too, who knows. Self education is the key. I feel like i waste my time when I run into a doctor who just does what every other doctor does and prescribes the same dang thing. They wont listen to you, they just do what the commercials tell them to do.

From doing my research about medication and this disorder I really believe Nardil will help me if its the correct dosage. We all vary and we all weigh different too, and some of us have a higher toleration for certain drugs than others.

In the meantime I am giving Seroquel a fair shot. I really hope it works.

Is anyone in this forum on Nardil?? I never tried it so just curioous how it works for you and what dosage you are on...

Well theres my little rant.. I know i sound frustrated but to tell you the truth I am LOL... sorry if I offended anyone i just wanted to just get it all out. I wish so badly there will be a cure for this in my lifetime.

Have a wonderful week. =o\
Mandalay
 

blue

Well-known member
Hello
wow you are on a high dosage of meds! And you say it doesnt work?
Personally I would not go any higher until you have tried some alternatives.

In my opinion medication can not cure sad it can only mask it ( and ive never found one that can even do that)

Sad is in your head, its thought processes that set it off, i think some times our limitations are so built in that we dont even know we are doing it.

Its like if you have had a good experience in a situation that you had feared your confidence increases because you are thinking possitive . you go into the situation nervouse ,then you force yourself to think possitive and realise you can do it so your not scared of that situation.

If you go into a situation nervouse and think oh my god this is so bad im gonna have a pannic attack and everyone will notice and my life will be over ( not literally) then you probably will because only possitive thoughts or thinking of something else can stop that happening. Your brain has learnt to pannic from you, how can medication stop that?

I bet when you were in that church meeting you were fine because you have been befor and have felt fine so your confidence rises so you subconciously ( sorry about spelling) start to think normally, how you would if you relax so naturally like everyone else you think hey i want to talk about my experieces here. Then you start and your brain then recognises that it isnt something you normally do so instead of telling your self to stay calm you instantaniously start to pannic then the negetive thoughts come in and you feel doomed, so its off to the docs for more meds because your getting worse......right?

You just need to think possitively its sooooo hard but its the only way.
Try reading Susan Jeffers feal the fear and do it any way its not a social anxiety book but it has helped me so much to deal with things .
Most therpies you can try will say that diversion tecniques and possitive thinking are the way to cure yourself it just takes alot of self disiplin.

Sorry to rant I hope what ive said helps helps and doesnt offend you in any way :)
 
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