Why does this happen with every girl

dannyboy65

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I'm getting sick and tired of this. Every girl that ever shows any particular interest in me just kicks me out of their life. This girl I was best friends with for 2 years started to like me and was always jealous when I had a date or whatever. Well anyway I hungout with her all day, she wanted to kiss me, and give me a chance. None of that happened. No instead she texts me saying she has a crush on my best friend now. What makes me so unattractive, I act like myself and I don't push the girl into a date I let them make their own decisions. I don't try to control and I'm not out for sex. I'm getting sick of being a nice guy, it gets me no where. The last girl I went with on a date even walked out, she told me she was going to the bathroom and never came back. I'm just so sick of being undesirable and lonely. Why do I even keep trying, I'm not going to find a girl.
 

Lavinialuna

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I am always shocked to hear that there are so many girls out there that are so mean. I'm sorry that you are going through this, and that you are getting ****ed around. You don't deserve it. Some people like to keep a guy on a string in case they need them. I would turn your back to her, she sounds like trouble.
I used to say (when I was single) "my type isn't my type anymore." Maybe you find yourself attracted to a type that simply isn't good for you. There are people out there with an ounce of empathy and common decency to treat you like a human being... where to find them, I don't know. Keep your chin up and don't give up.
 

S_Spartan

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My years have taught me that you have to be firm with women (no pun intended. ..haha) or else many will run roughshod over you.

Many women get entertainment from manipulating people and playing with their emotions. You have to call them on it and really spell it out that you aren't going to take it.

The big secret is thay many women are not nice. They may look nice, they may smell nice, they may even speak nicely and softly but when you spend some time with them you start to see the other side.

I am not meaning to bash women here. Men are just as bad. But as someone who has gone through SO MUCH with women I think I have earned some license to speak on the subject.

There are good women out there but they are hard to find.

Keep looking, be firm, spell it out, and don't discount your own value, op!
 

darrens

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I think its extremely hard for guys with SA phobia to any degree to date women in modern society,confidence is everything it seems,off course there is some out there so i wouldn't give up,its just they are harder to find but there is plenty of girls out there attracted to you.

Society in general is pretty shallow these days,but where there is shallow people focused completely on looks and confidence,there is people out there who don't determine everything by looks and confidence.

Also i think what i notice a lot happens to be the case is,if for example a girls father has social anxiety to some degree often she does be attracted to guys similiar to her father i know a few people who married guys similiar to their father who was also a bit socially awkward,as for your friend having you as a back up boyfriend,you should slowly back away from her it will be better for u in the long run.
 

Lavinialuna

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I agree with Spartan, especially at your age. When I was young I was immature. I played mind games with men and I didn't even realize I was doing it! I could only recognize it as I watched myself make mistakes and I got old enough to know better. I can say I probably wasn't mature enough for a decent relationship until I was 25. Still, there are women who never mature. My mother is 64 and acts like she is still in high school. It may take a long time to find someone worth the bother, but hang in there. Even if a relationship fails, you are learning (and so is she.)
I totally agree with Darrens too.
 

MotherWolff

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I'm getting sick and tired of this. Every girl that ever shows any particular interest in me just kicks me out of their life. This girl I was best friends with for 2 years started to like me and was always jealous when I had a date or whatever. Well anyway I hungout with her all day, she wanted to kiss me, and give me a chance. None of that happened. No instead she texts me saying she has a crush on my best friend now. What makes me so unattractive, I act like myself and I don't push the girl into a date I let them make their own decisions. I don't try to control and I'm not out for sex. I'm getting sick of being a nice guy, it gets me no where. The last girl I went with on a date even walked out, she told me she was going to the bathroom and never came back. I'm just so sick of being undesirable and lonely. Why do I even keep trying, I'm not going to find a girl.

Hi Dannyboy.

Hey, that isn't fair that these girls are playing with your emotions like that. But I don't think you should throw in the towel just yet. Keep trying if you desire the right type of female in your life.

Maybe the time for you to be with someone has not yet come. Give it some time. I actually feel just like you. Except in my case its males. Seems like no man is attracted to me.

But I think in my case its because I really don't put myself out there. I believe if you keep working at it, you will meet someone who is good for you eventually.
 

hippiechild

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It sounds like you're passively letting her and everyone else around you decided whether or not you get what you want.

Oh, she has a crush on your friend... damn, better luck next time.. totally bummers man.

Tell her or show her how you feel and then, if she's receptive, take her on your journey. Let her see what the world is like with you as a companion and lover. If you are a well put-together guy with a strong mind and body, as is probably the case, she'll naturally be overjoyed to have the honor of accompanying you through the rest of life.

Passivity and polite platitudes are not attractive because they do not create a strong, coherent community in the face of the hardships inherent to being alive. You have the be the artist, carving the world in the likeness of your inner vision. If people like what they see, they will come and join you in a collaborative effort to make the world a place worth living in.


-Where does this idea that simply being nice will make people like you come from? Do they owe it to you? If so, what have you given to make it so? Do you not realize that the world is built from actions with goals acting on material and symbolic substrates?

There is no real substance to niceness, physical or intellectual. It is only nuance to an interaction and serves no concrete purpose other than lubricating/streamlining particular forms of friendly and neutral interaction. If you feed on pure niceness, without anything concrete (symbolic or physical) to anchor it to, you will starve. This girl understands this intuitively.
 
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FriendlyShadow

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Maybe the time for you to be with someone has not yet come. Give it some time. I actually feel just like you. Except in my case its males. Seems like no man is attracted to me.

I feel the same exact way. I haven't really had much luck with the guys anyways who'd ever be interested in me, but I hate that I'm letting it get in the way. Maybe some people in this world are meant to be single, though it's not a bad thing to me that is. Even though many people get unlucky with with finding a relationship, I'm sure there's positive lights in not being one.
 

PugofCrydee

You want to know how I got these scars?
Get youself a hot sportscar, wear flashy clothes, treat them and others like they are beneath you. Pretend you are rich( if you are rich you have the battle 3/4 won).

Girls seem drawn to the types I just described above.

But in all seriousness, you dont want these girls anyway. It took me a while to realize to find a girl you'll be truly happy and comfortable with, you cant force that to happen.

Perhaps you are looking in the wrong places.
eg; If you dont drink alcohol, and dont like being around people who drink, why would you go to a pub to find a partner? I'm not saying you drink, but trying to make clear that maybe you're around the wrong girls.

Personally once I stopped trying so hard to find a girlfriend, I found one.
 
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Srijita52

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It sounds like you're passively letting her and everyone else around you decided whether or not you get what you want.

Oh, she has a crush on your friend... damn, better luck next time.. totally bummers man.

Tell her or show her how you feel and then, if she's receptive, take her on your journey. Let her see what the world is like with you as a companion and lover. If you are a well put-together guy with a strong mind and body, as is probably the case, she'll naturally be overjoyed to have the honor of accompanying you through the rest of life.

Passivity and polite platitudes are not attractive because they do not create a strong, coherent community in the face of the hardships inherent to being alive. You have the be the artist, carving the world in the likeness of your inner vision. If people like what they see, they will come and join you in a collaborative effort to make the world a place worth living in.


-Where does this idea that simply being nice will make people like you come from? Do they owe it to you? If so, what have you given to make it so? Do you not realize that the world is built from actions with goals acting on material and symbolic substrates?

There is no real substance to niceness, physical or intellectual. It is only nuance to an interaction and serves no concrete purpose other than lubricating/streamlining particular forms of friendly and neutral interaction. If you feed on pure niceness, without anything concrete (symbolic or physical) to anchor it to, you will starve. This girl understands this intuitively.

Completely agree with this
 

Kiwong

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If you are a well put-together guy with a strong mind and body, as is probably the case, she'll naturally be overjoyed to have the honor of accompanying you through the rest of life.

Strong mind and body? No weakness allowed? Well put together? So the deal's off if there are any biomechanic deficiencies?

If these were the requirements for a relationship, the numbers in them would plummet.

You have the be the artist, carving the world in the likeness of your inner vision. If people like what they see, they will come and join you in a collaborative effort to make the world a place worth living in.

An artist carving the world in the likeness of your inner vision? That's not much too ask :eek:mg:

Do you not realize that the world is built from actions with goals acting on material and symbolic substrates?

Stuff that. If the world is like that, I want off the bus.
 

Luckylife

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A girl can only do so much and if it appears you are not interested she will move on, if only to reaffirm her self esteem. You had your best chance - unlikely you will get another from her. I get this sometimes, in that I can show initial interest but to commit further I have a mental block. So I might have a hug and kiss which should lead on but I will seem 'uninterested or unemotional' - she gets the wrong message, takes off. Two hours later I am running things thru my mind thinking 'Oh, yeah if I had done that...'. Sound familiar?
You saying you're a nice guy not out for sex implies that sexual behaviour is you being a nasty/unpleasant guy. Adult relationships put a greater emphasis on sexual reward and if you don't want you shant get.
 

BDDgirl

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You don't need a degree in psychology to meet a girl! Just be yourself and don't play games. Women like honest guys who have no agenda. I know there are some out there somewhere! My friend Clara has a great bf he treats her like a princess. That is all you have to do. Treat a girl like she is you're Queen.
 

BDDgirl

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Guess that degree in psychology counts for nothing.

I'm in a relationship myself, so I can attest to that statement. :thumbup:

See, OP—two thumbs up. One from me and one from BDDgirl; be honest, don't play games, and don't lie. The recipe for a successful relationship. Plus, don't forget the salt.


I couldn't tell from your post that you were in a relationship. Me too. So I also know a thing or two, plus I am a female and can speak for my gender-even better!

I am so tired of all the bad things said about females and how bad we are treated.

I am sure your girl friend can tell you a thing or two about how hard it is out there.
 

dannyboy65

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Hey guys sorry about this post I was just really angry and wanted to let it all out. Thank you for the tips I enjoyed them all. I know I can't stop being a nice guy its just in my nature I don't like to hurt people. I don't mind waiting anymore, but thanks again for all the help.
 

dannyboy65

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Re: Dime a dozen

OP, you're tired of being the "nice guy"? What else are you going to be—the disrespectful guy who abuses women and uses them for your own self gain? Men don't need to put on a show to please a woman, because if you need to try to be nice and it doesn't come naturally, then what good is it to lie to yourself and the woman you are with? Generic advice is as follows—be yourself. Don't second guess your actions and do what you think is right. If you are truly the nice guy you think are, it will all just happen in the moment. Please don't lose hope after rejection from just two women.

I think what is going on, in your case, is a serious lack of communication between you and these women. If you are going out on "dates or whatever" without her and she is becoming jealous, unless you have expressed your feelings to her, she is naturally going to think you are not interested and may justify why she is moving onto your best friend. If she doesn't know you have feelings for her, you can not fault her for not returning them towards you. Being the man in the relationship, you may need to make the first move.

Speaking of making the first move, not asking women out on dates and letting them contact you and arrange them is something I would also strongly recommend changing in your future endeavors. There is nothing more sincere than being asked out by someone, despite the circumstances, because it shows that you care and that you are interested in being with them. If you don't contact them first, you are open to losing them to others who might. It's not controlling and they most certainly are making their own decisions by choosing to go on the date or not. By not asking, you are not trying.

Do use manners and do not be offended or sensitive to their responses, especially if they are either busy or deny you. I assure you, there is nothing less attractive than a man who pouts or throws temper tantrums like a child. If she is busy, work around her schedule, listen, and contact her further at a time when she is available. You need to learn how to sense things, as she may sound like she is delaying things or unsure about the situation, but what she really wants is to be left alone and may not be interested. It may sound obvious, but absolutely do not present yourself as desperate—do not contact them too often or at unusual times, as well as absolutely do not initiate any controversial conversation topics. Please use discretion with these women.

The reason the woman walked out on you is because you were not picking up on the signals of something. What you described was vague, but there is something that resulted in her feeling that that was her last resort. If you noticed she may have been feeling uncomfortable prior to her absence or was acting reserved, you may have offended her or said/ done something that caused her such discomfort that she felt she had to remove herself from the situation. If there is a long period of extended silence between you and the woman you are on a first date with and things begin to feel awkward, you may cause irreparable damage with ever creating an intimate relationship with her. If you can not talk the woman you are with, than maybe you are with the wrong woman.

I agree with S_Spartan and I agree with Lavinialuna agreeing with S_Spartan. OP, it sounds like you are still young, quite possibly even within your teenage years—to that, I reassure you that the young women your age are far less prepared and willing to commit than you seem to be looking for. With time, these women will appreciate the values that a quality man can instill in a relationship and they will seek out a lifestyle that can provide them with more than just a good time. Be patient and keep a diligent attitude, as far as dating goes.

"Why do [you] keep trying, if [you're] not finding the right girl?" For her. You do it for her. Imagine the joy you will bring the right girl, when you find her. Don't deprive her of you, by giving up because you haven't found her yet.

Thank you for that I have told her that I like her. I have not asked her on a date me and my life coach from the autism foundation are currently working on building relationships.
 
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