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Old 2 Weeks Ago
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Hey everyone!

I posted here a few years back, but thought I would post again and see what feedback I can get.

I just started iontophoresis treatments again on my hands two days ago with my Fischer unit. I have what I would consider severe hyperhidrosis of the hands, feet, and underarms. Itís extremely debilitating and a source of great anxiety, but I wonít get into that here.

The purpose of this post is to get feedback from those of you who have achieved success with iontophoresis. I have tried it off and on for the past few years, but have never achieved dryness. I believe the maximum amount of time I have put in before is 20 hours or so total. If I remember correctly, I was doing 30-minute to one-hour treatments daily at a fairly high level of milliamps (15 to 20).

Anyway, I would like to ask how much total time I should put in this time around before giving up. Iím desperate to find a solution to this terrible disorder.

Thanks,

-Chase


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Hey Chase,
I remember trying iontophoresis about a year and a half ago and had success. My palms and feet were completely dry. However, it only lasted for about a few days or maybe even a full week. I did 15 minutes per polarity at 18V (I used the iontoderma id-1000) with baking soda for every night until they got dry. I don't know why it stopped working; I did maintenance as soon as I felt the effects wearing off, but it never worked again, even after trying again a few months ago. I've experimented with so many different types of water ranging from plain tap to mineral water. Nothing seems to work unfortunately.

I've been on these forums probably since you have and still am dealing with this debilitating condition like you mentioned. The only input I could give is to just do ~15 min per polarity and possibly add some baking soda or salt if your area's tap water is on the softer side. Good luck!
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Is you ionto device capable of pulsed current? Pulsed current will allow you to stand higher currents (I go up to 35) with virtually no pain. It supposedly takes longer to see results but maybe the higher current will allow you to achieve dryness.

I can't remember how long it took before I saw results the first time I did ionto treatment but it was a while. THe time it took to see results decreased after the first one or two treatment cycles. Just be consistent with your treatments and try not to miss more than a day and try to do a min of 40 mins. For me personally, I find that these days after I've done about 4-6 hrs total over 4 -6 days, I'll stop just due to being lazy or not having time and after 2-5 days after my last treatment all of a sudden my hands will be dry. It's weird.

How long it takes to work or if it works at all seems to be such an individual thing. All I can say is just keep doing treatments, make sure to use water that is on the harder side and who knows, maybe it'll take 50 hours before it works. I don't know what the maximum amount of hours anyone has tried ionto before giving up but who knows, maybe it's possible that someone might not see results the first time until doing 50,60 hours of treatment. Wish I could help more. Best of luck.
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There is also the option of meds if you give up on ionto. Glycopyrrolate, Oxybutynin...but I would use those only after truly giving ionto the best shot you can, as those meds have side effects that could lead to permanent effects from use.
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Follow Soy Sauce advice. Also, order some Antihydral online and rub that into our hands 5 minutes before treatment and see if that helps.

Ionto is tricky and obviously doesn't work for everyone. Try mixing in some rain water when you can. I used the Fisher unit for years and I find that pulsed current works better for me. Less pain and more control of the current.

Try doing treatment for at least 15 minutes per polarity, totalling 1/2 an hour for 14 days straight and then stop for a week and then do the same thing again for several cycles. Ionto is a funny science and I had change how I've done it over the past 12 1/2 years. There are just so many variables to consider.

Variables, can be stressful life events, moving, medications, water, altitude, job change, relationship change and the list goes own. I've documented so much of my experiences here. Sometimes there's just no logic as to why ionto works or doesn't work.
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Old 1 Week Ago
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Thanks guys for these replies.

A brief update...

A spot below my thumb on both hands has gone totally dry. Iíve noticed a general reduction in sweating from both hands over the last few days. They both still sweat, but less often than usual. The spots below my thumbs cannot sweat even at those times, however.

Should I keep going? Good signs?

Please keep in mind that Iíve only put in a total time of 7 hours this time around. Strangely Iíve noticed results coming faster than my last try in which I put in more than 20 hours.


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Try my above advice.
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I've used iontophoresis many times before, just like you. I remember when i first started doing iontophoresis my hands went super-dry. It was so dry that when i shook people's hands, they would tell me "your hands are so rough and dry". Unfortunately iontophoresis thickens your skin and subsequent sessions weren't as effective.

I had an electronics class last year and tried to hook an Arduino micro-controller to experiment with various voltage, polarity, pulses and ac/dc configurations with my iontophoresis sessions. I came to the conclusion that the most important factor is the composition of the water, not the current. The current is just "transporting/pushing" whatever is in the water into the top layers of the skin. Hard water works best, but adding in your own stuff, like mentioned in the posts above would help.

Is heat one of the triggers for your sweating? Are your hands/body always warm?
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