SA hindering with job applications?

uksam

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HH and the resulting SA is definitely hindering me with searching for jobs. Is anyone else in the same boat?

I'm in my final year of university, good degree, top university - I've worked hard and got lucky - and everyone says that means I can get any job I want. But I feel the opposite. I keep putting off applications to things like internships, I never applied to any, as I felt sure I would fail so what's the point anyway... I know its stupid when thinking about it/writing it but I can't help doing it.

I feel like I'm slipping into the same path now when considering which jobs to apply for after graduating. I keep finding something, thinking it'd be interesting etc. but then not long after I'll think of everything I can to convince myself that its not for me.

That and I can't help but worry that my HH will ruin me in interviews.

Anyone feel similarly?
 

Flanscho

Well-known member
Yep, it does. Sometimes the job interviewer asks me whether I'm an introverted person, and what my social skills are like and whatnot. And I also get nervous each time. I can pretend to be somewhat professional during the interview, but in the days before one, I get very very nervous.
The last company I applied at I already had two job interviews yet. The first one for social stuff, whether I fit in. The second for skills. Next week I have a practice day, where I have to prove my worth.
 

uksam

Well-known member
Best of luck for next week!

Anytime I see that a company uses 'assessment centres' or something along those lines I crap myself at the thought of it
 

Richey

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If you have a degree then you are in the favourable position of being at the top of the list for entry level, internships, graduate roles, and many service level jobs. You will be ahead of people with Diploma certificates, unless the person with a Diploma has some good relevant work experience to balance their resume out. You are also ahead of people with no certificates.

If you have a degree, some work experience anywhere, a good resume, then you will find work. It is usually very much favoured upon by HR and medium-big companies. You are ahead of many other unemployed people. Essentially a lot of companies want either degree educated or good 2-5 years of work experience in that industry.

I don't have a degree, I have a diploma, which is generally 2 years of education not 3-5 years like a degree is. But I am still getting interviews because my resume is really nice. Has some cool formatting. I have some work experience to combine with education certificates.

Keep trying, you'll get something soon.

If you've gotten through university, then you are already well trained to do well as an intern or an entry level.

You could also apply for some retail, so that you develop customer service experience. Any job is hard for the first few months, but the experience would be valuable. If you get into retail or hospitality then it would help for when you get an internship for dealing with team members, clients, managers. Interaction and politics can be a powerful presence at professional workplaces. That can be a bigger challenge than the actual work. Dealing with the people.

Good luck, keep trying. Remember that if you do get a job, you may like it or dislike it, you can always leave and get another one at some point. You aren't locked into anything. This is the great thing. Companies interview you and give you a 3 month probation, but you can also do the same. So if you get any sort of work, use the same approach. You give them a 3 month probation, see if you enjoy the environment, the people, the work, the location, the travel. Because you can always stay or go.

Remember that when you think about interviews and new workplaces being a nervous anxiety filled thing. You can leave if it truly isn't a match for you.

From what I've noticed. Lots of people make mistakes at work, but they hide it well, or they don't make it obvious. I've worked with people who were really low on knowledge and so I did my best to train them. I really enjoy training people so they feel better, there is nothing better then helping people with knowledge to make their life easier. So when you do get a job there will be people who are struggling more than you realise, but they may be hiding it very well. There will also be the super-confident ones who have been technicians for years and will show their ego, but the more exposure to them the better you will feel dealing with them.

My advice is to give it a go. Apply for jobs you want and give yourself a chance. Because the majority of the workers will be feeling just like you, unsure, nervous, under pressure, uncertain, motivated, maybe a little excited. See it as an experiment to test yourself. Whatever the outcome.

If an outcome of a career is good or bad it's still building up your skills muscles. Better than sitting around not getting any experience.

Try looking for company websites job sections as well as general graduate job sites. So you'd need to research the big companies that hire graduates. Maybe give yourself a target 5 applications a day. 2 in the morning, 2 at night and 1 at lunch, so you keep a consistency of application at a good level that doesn't take up your whole day.
 
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sahxox

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Sounds like you're in a pretty good position uni wise :)
Only issue is that that can make it harder to express your concerns to people around you, cos they might think you have everything and wouldn't get SA.
I found this as well, it's all a mindset. I likened it to jumping off a diving board once... my anxiety got so bad but I was legally forced to find a job. I was so scared I actually ended up like "stuff it" and just jumped. Just apply for one at first. It really isn't that bad, as hard as it may seem now. Good luck.
 

uksam

Well-known member
If you have a degree then you are in the favourable position of being at the top of the list for entry level, internships, graduate roles, and many service level jobs. You will be ahead of people with Diploma certificates, unless the person with a Diploma has some good relevant work experience to balance their resume out. You are also ahead of people with no certificates.

If you have a degree, some work experience anywhere, a good resume, then you will find work. It is usually very much favoured upon by HR and medium-big companies. You are ahead of many other unemployed people. Essentially a lot of companies want either degree educated or good 2-5 years of work experience in that industry.

I don't have a degree, I have a diploma, which is generally 2 years of education not 3-5 years like a degree is. But I am still getting interviews because my resume is really nice. Has some cool formatting. I have some work experience to combine with education certificates.

Keep trying, you'll get something soon.

If you've gotten through university, then you are already well trained to do well as an intern or an entry level.

You could also apply for some retail, so that you develop customer service experience. Any job is hard for the first few months, but the experience would be valuable. If you get into retail or hospitality then it would help for when you get an internship for dealing with team members, clients, managers. Interaction and politics can be a powerful presence at professional workplaces. That can be a bigger challenge than the actual work. Dealing with the people.

Good luck, keep trying. Remember that if you do get a job, you may like it or dislike it, you can always leave and get another one at some point. You aren't locked into anything. This is the great thing. Companies interview you and give you a 3 month probation, but you can also do the same. So if you get any sort of work, use the same approach. You give them a 3 month probation, see if you enjoy the environment, the people, the work, the location, the travel. Because you can always stay or go.

Remember that when you think about interviews and new workplaces being a nervous anxiety filled thing. You can leave if it truly isn't a match for you.

From what I've noticed. Lots of people make mistakes at work, but they hide it well, or they don't make it obvious. I've worked with people who were really low on knowledge and so I did my best to train them. I really enjoy training people so they feel better, there is nothing better then helping people with knowledge to make their life easier. So when you do get a job there will be people who are struggling more than you realise, but they may be hiding it very well. There will also be the super-confident ones who have been technicians for years and will show their ego, but the more exposure to them the better you will feel dealing with them.

My advice is to give it a go. Apply for jobs you want and give yourself a chance. Because the majority of the workers will be feeling just like you, unsure, nervous, under pressure, uncertain, motivated, maybe a little excited. See it as an experiment to test yourself. Whatever the outcome.

If an outcome of a career is good or bad it's still building up your skills muscles. Better than sitting around not getting any experience.

Try looking for company websites job sections as well as general graduate job sites. So you'd need to research the big companies that hire graduates. Maybe give yourself a target 5 applications a day. 2 in the morning, 2 at night and 1 at lunch, so you keep a consistency of application at a good level that doesn't take up your whole day.

Thanks so much for your reply. re: the end paragraph, I've been looking at big companies. But the thing is the grad schemes are still competitive, there are quality, high achieving people on my course getting rejected from top schemes, not even making it past the initial cv sift. Having a less impressive cv than them makes it seem like why bother.

But I will jump into the deep end, at some point.

Again, thank you so much :)
 

uksam

Well-known member
Sounds like you're in a pretty good position uni wise :)
Only issue is that that can make it harder to express your concerns to people around you, cos they might think you have everything and wouldn't get SA.
I found this as well, it's all a mindset. I likened it to jumping off a diving board once... my anxiety got so bad but I was legally forced to find a job. I was so scared I actually ended up like "stuff it" and just jumped. Just apply for one at first. It really isn't that bad, as hard as it may seem now. Good luck.

Thanks - I am hoping that once I get cracking I'll be able to do them without fretting about things that are really just non-problems, the things I'm thinking about that help me talk myself out of it.
 

jaim38

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I'm also in my final year of uni, but my uni isn't a top one, not that I care. I have worked for only 1 month, only to be fired afterwards. Like you, I've also been putting off internship and job applications for the most part because I don't think I can handle education AND job at the same time. Last time I worked and studied, it was so exhausting for me, I went to class sleepy bobbing my head up and down and I could see the TAs pointing and talking about me. Eventually the other students noticed too and started talking about me. After I was fired, I feel so relieved.

Maybe I wasn't efficient at managing my time. I used to spend so much time studying that I had little time left for sleep or anything else.

The thought of applying for internships scare me. I thought about going to job fairs sponsored by my school but crowds of people will be there. The anxiety holds me back. And what do I do at a job fair when I get there? Just wander around? I don't know. If I go to a job fair, I need at least another person to go with me. The thought of seeing recruiters scare me. I imagine them as hounds staring at people.

Freelancing is a good option, something I might look into.
 
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mikebird

Banned
There's something else hindering me

It starts with an advert. If I can do it and want to, I apply
Sometimes bulk email about something already advertised or unknown
The pestering telephone is my barrier
But that hasn't rung much this year. Thousands of applications.
I got excited and stressed about it for years. Still eager. I think I've been trained by recruiters to not answer the phone.

A simple tool of many I learned to use in the telecomms industry. A head full of area codes are more detail. There's a special webpage to locate any call number by postcode and supplier, etc... Any invalid unidentifiable number that repeats per minute, hour, week or month immediately gets its own name. There are online notes about telesales, lawyers, insurance, debt, silent calls... which can't be called back. It's a complex matrix of how secret or how often the calls are made, always on both lines, and how the scorecard will show for let it ringing, cancel, turned off and either show ay home or not... but surely all judgement is negative. No way to impress or appear as a celebrity but answering an unwanted call. It's not about any individual, personal call. It's how many millions of them you get. Shallow

Why can't I go to see them at their office in town?

Maybe the more I apply the deeper I generate a bad reputation
 
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