return from search for wisdom

Vincent

Banned
Don't know that I'm any wiser thought.

I said to a guy at work, 42 year old South African man, "Do you think it true, that knowledge is turned into experience through action?" or something like that. He said yes, I queried, "how can you take action on something abstract like philosophy or psychology? Compared to the likes of carpentary, whereby you immediately use the knowledge in a practical way." He said "by implementing it into your lifestyle and choices" Thoughts are choices too, the smallest denomination of choice must be an individual thought. This is where I am and maybe some of you reading this; knowledge of the solutions but not action the implementation. It's so fucken complicated. I believe that anxiety creates an ever growing maze of complication in our heads that distances us from those without it. I'm flooded with quotes on the edge of my head writing this, so the knowledge is there, I must have to choose. Perhaps that's a fundamental point; choice. There is too much in the world, too much information, too much emotion inside my skull. Is the filter choice? I gave up on that when my choices were inhibited by an invisible crib.

I'm slowly getting into the program of Richards,

i got delayed as I couldnt swallow letting go of self hate and other forms of negativity.

things read in two books independent of one on the Ennegram another and "The Art of Happiness" Dali Lama convince me otherwise. The latter book is pretty decent as the author is Dr of Western psychology, the Dali Lama, a guru in Eastern Spirituality. The Ennegram, has had a huge impact on self discovery and what the alternative to an anxious self could and will eventually be. I mean, how can you move from an anxious self to another, without knowing what the other is?

What really is the key to social anxiety?

I still don't know.

It's all in your head right? So cognition.

Therein lies the path to personal salvation?

Either that or a drug induced perpetual labotomy...

Whats in my head? My personal prison:

Perfectionism. Won't work. Humans can never be, and there is no perfect interaction. I watch too many scripted films and try and take social cues from these artificial interactions.

Fear. Of rejection. Because of a lack of alternatives. The more you socialise and more friends you have, the less dependent you are on the opinion of others.

Envy. Comparing to others. This with perfectionism creates an impossible situation. The only thing worthy of envy is happiness. But envy is a negative emotion as is happiness is a positive one. One or the other.

Hate. People cause self hate because of their reaction to projected anxiety. Hate is turned on those that inflict this pain.

Guilt. Reliance on one person to provide all social functions and needs. Guilt on contrast between actions and wants. Other to assume actions follow wants, as is with them.

and so on...

What is the key, my solution?

"How do you fight an idea? With another idea."

A positive mind to fight the negative. However, the fighting paradox (something that seems to contradict itself, but is true)

Your brain is a changed by your thoughts. So thinking negative thoughts are bad or just thinking them, is the same result; changing (or keeping) your brain negative. Unlike maths, two negatives don't make a positive. You fight negative thinking by replacing it with positive. But what to think about? First go rational. Distinguish feelings from thoughts. Use action to override feelings. Action to do what? Whatever you want.
 

Vincent

Banned
Thanks for your reply Worrydoll,

you're right, I forgot about that. Love. Seems a while since I've felt that. A quote your reply reminded me of:

"Confronted by outstanding merit in another, there is no way of savings one's ego except love".

Thankyou for reminding me... :)
 

Vincent

Banned
pretence

shit,

somewhere i heard,

perhaps a level of pretence should be afforded to those with appropiate merit...

your quote was such, don't apologise.

maybe pretensious is making assumptions or generalities, but everyone's knowledge is flawed, not perfect and limited to their experience and information.

one thing that has struck me about so many post on this site; alot of wisdom/knowledge whatever. to do with psych or philosophy. As Nicklibuck said: we are experts on social anxiety, i don't think its pretensious to have conviction in what you say or think on SA, but we are not all the same even though we have the same affliction. Im thinkin of the Ennegram here, and I think that people here come from emotive, intellectual and affective primary thinking centers. I thought before everyone was Individualists (4 Type) like myself, with different levels of (dis)integration. I got only two feedbacks on Ennegram types, but one said a intellectual withdrawn, so I figured SA is withdrawl from the environment (significantly people), and there are three withdrawns, the afore mentioned intellectual, emotional and affective.

I don't know how readable this is, but to those that are, what Ennegram type are you or Myers-Briggs?

Cheers Worrydoll,
:)
 
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