Religion

Is anyone here religious and does it help you deal with your SA, I personally dont belong to any religion but i'm looking into the beliefs of a lot of different religions to try and help me understand them better and to try and help me understand how I can improve myself. I'm not looking to belong to a religion but I think that there has to be parts of different religions that can help anyone even if it's just a respect for your fellow man.

Graham

Yes, I'm religious. Atheist to be exact. No, it doesn't help any.

To be honest if what the reilgion claims to be true, the world is not open for any other belief. There is no dabbling or multiple choices.

The choice of "What religion is best for me" is somewhat backwards logic in this respect. There is either genuine, or not. Agreed, advice can be handy, but the true benefit of religion... wisdom and peace of mind through knowledge, is much more firmly set.

And yes it has helped me, alot more than I could possibly dream. Jehovah's Witnesses and their method of Christianity is what I see to be genuine, studying the bible continuously has the benefit of accuracy.

jamez said:

Yes, I'm religious. Atheist to be exact. No, it doesn't help any.

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Yep, same here. But I imagine believing that there's no God makes it sort of less complicated, one less thing to think about. If I were religious, I'd probably drive myself crazy over exactly how much power God has over my life.

No, I'm not at all religious either. It just seems to complicated, and would take up too much time. Oh and Day_Tripper I love your avatar. Led Zeppelin is the best thing in the whole word.

to me, religion should be fun. that's why i'm not actually a satanist, but i like a lot of the beliefs tied in with satanism. i also like buddhism, christianity, and atheism... and honestly, i think reading up on any inspirational/spiritual shit can help. i guess i'm more into the spirituality than the religion itself, but it's definitely not something i'll ever take real seriously. ...kind of like my anxiety 8O .

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Shopping for religion... bah.

I considered myself to be generally non-religious, but last night I tripped on 300 morning glory seeds and I don't know what to think anymore. I felt something, and it was solely my faith in that something that got me through the experience. Whether it was God, the universal mind, myself, or simply truth in and of itself, I'm not sure.

Regardless of any spiritual implications, it was a very enlightening experience that granted me insight into, well, a lot of things. It was a great opportunity for self-exploration and self-improvement. And isn't that what a religion should do?

Timothy Leary got it right...

Ah I had one glorious morning following the night I ingested some heavenly blue morning glory seeds...Along with some shrooms...I wouldn't recommend the combo haha...wicked stomach ache...but I made some revlations that night haha...


Peace

scyth said:

God is a twat. I gave up on him long ago.

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way to go!
as for religion, i think it's generally bad for social phobics to enter religions\cults because in most of them, the set of values is designed for the general population, while social phobics are not like most people.
i don't think memorizing "thou shall not kill" whould help social phobics much
oh an i'm a nihilist. ^_^

Hey Graham

Yes I am religious, Catholic. And yes it has helped me…

One of the things that I heard just the other day I thought was really cool just as an analogy was this story…A lady was having problems and was depressed and didn’t know why and so she went to a psychologist and while there the psychologist took her back into her childhood to see where and why the trouble had started…They finally came to rest on one particular scene…She was at school and for some unknown reason one of the teachers took a dislike to her. One day the teacher told her to come up to the front of the class and gave her a piece of chalk and told her to write on the blackboard…I am a failure…So she did, then the teacher told the rest of the class to come up and write on the board what they thought of her…The psychologist asked her what she felt and what was she doing at that time…She replied I was crying they were writing lies, it was lies, I just couldn’t believe it, I wanted to die…The psychologist said something else happened that day and I’m sad you didn’t see it but there was a man sitting at a desk at the back and after everyone had finished he came up and took an eraser and wiped the board clean and wrote I LOVE YOU…And that’s what He (Jesus) wants to do for all of us even though most of what is written on our blackboards may be true He wants to wipe it clean…

Believing in God is meant to make things less complicated not more…What can be less complicated than He loves you unconditionally and wants you to know and love Him, He wants the very best for you, He has a great plan for you and your life…


Unless you assume a God, the question of life’s purpose is meaningless.
Bertrand Russell, atheist.

AngelsTears85 said:

Hey Graham

Yes I am religious, Catholic. And yes it has helped me…

One of the things that I heard just the other day I thought was really cool just as an analogy was this story…A lady was having problems and was depressed and didn’t know why and so she went to a psychologist and while there the psychologist took her back into her childhood to see where and why the trouble had started…They finally came to rest on one particular scene…She was at school and for some unknown reason one of the teachers took a dislike to her. One day the teacher told her to come up to the front of the class and gave her a piece of chalk and told her to write on the blackboard…I am a failure…So she did, then the teacher told the rest of the class to come up and write on the board what they thought of her…The psychologist asked her what she felt and what was she doing at that time…She replied I was crying they were writing lies, it was lies, I just couldn’t believe it, I wanted to die…The psychologist said something else happened that day and I’m sad you didn’t see it but there was a man sitting at a desk at the back and after everyone had finished he came up and took an eraser and wiped the board clean and wrote I LOVE YOU…And that’s what He (Jesus) wants to do for all of us even though most of what is written on our blackboards may be true He wants to wipe it clean…

Believing in God is meant to make things less complicated not more…What can be less complicated than He loves you unconditionally and wants you to know and love Him, He wants the very best for you, He has a great plan for you and your life…


Unless you assume a God, the question of life’s purpose is meaningless.
Bertrand Russell, atheist.

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AngelsTears85, that story is really inspiring and whatnot but, seriously, look around you. Turn the tv on. Read a newspaper. If your god, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient god, really exists, then wtf is he doing? Does He deserves your devotion/consideration whatever?

This is nothing personal, I don't expect any real response. This is just my perspective.

I believe in good, not in god.
God is a creatian of men to help them feel a bit less desperated about their mortality.

It is of course... in the bible. Why the world is as such and exactly how to get to know god himself as a person. Hence develope a true love for him and in turn change life for yourself and those influenced by you for the better (by a large margin).

The bible is called God's word for a reason, opinion about someones speech unheard is not really discussion now is it? Jehovah, god, does not want his people to be left in the dark but also said that many will ignore his voice (word/bible) too.

It all boils down to free choice of course on a individual level. If someone implores others to listen and they ignore him while dismissing what he has to say... well, Hopefully sometime they will listen at least before claiming they know what they are talking about.

whocares………I know it is not personal and I know I don’t have all the answers… To that I don’t know if this is an answer …I call heaven and earth to witness this day against you that I have set before you life and death, the blessings and the curses; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live. Deuteronomy 30:19

scythe……I’m sorry to hear that you have suffered and are bitter about God…I also know about life being pretty shit but I now know the freedom and joy that comes from the love, peace and grace of God. I have been a Catholic my whole life but only just recently came to this point…

Believing in God is meant to make things less complicated not more…What can be less complicated than He loves you unconditionally and wants you to know and love Him, He wants the very best for you, He has a great plan for you and your life…

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love isn't always good, the difference between love and hatraed is a lot shorter then what people think. a good example whould be a couple who's been in love for 5 years. when she finds out he's been cheating on her for the past 2 years. she's bound to hate him. even though they've been madly in love for 5 years.
a religious person who believes that jesus loves him isn't much different from a love-struck teenager and even worse. at least a love-struck teenager has seen his loved one.

Love is always good. But humans are fallible and so their love…But God is perfect and His love for us is perfect and unconditional.

And we know (understand, recognize, are conscious of, by observation and by experience) and believe (adhere to and put faith in and rely on) the love God cherishes for us. God is love, and he who dwells and continues in love dwells and continues in God, and God dwells and continues in him. 1 John 4:16

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear. 1 John 4:18

Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud; love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs; love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth. Love never gives up; and its faith, hope, and patience never fail. Love is eternal. There are inspired messages, but they are temporary; there are gifts of speaking in strange tongues, but they will cease; there is knowledge, but it will pass. For our gifts of knowledge and of inspired messages are only partial; but when what is perfect comes, then what is partial will disappear. Meanwhile these three remain; faith, hope, and love; and the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13:4-10,13


Testifying without a touch.“Blessed are those who believe without seeing.” John 20:29

Asking for proof before you believe can stop you from receiving what God wants you to accept based on His Word. Thomas watch Jesus die. That’s hard evidence to refute. As a result Thomas decided to believe only what he could see and verify. When your faith’s been shaken, you’re inclined to cling to things that are practical, absolute and tangible. Jesus graciously gave Thomas the proof needed, and said, “You believe because you have seen…Blessed are those who believe without seeing.” The fact remains, however, that if Thomas hadn’t been permitted to see and touch Jesus it wouldn’t have changed the reality of the resurrection one iota. Thomas’ problem wasn’t lack of faith, it was misdirected faith. He trusted only what he could process on a human level. Sound familiar?
By contrast, when Mary Magdalene met Jesus at the tomb He told her, “Don’t touch me…But go and find My brothers and tell them” (John 20:17) Mary once washed Jesus’ feet with her tears and dried them with her hair; touch was important to her. And touching Jesus at that moment would have confirmed what she’d seen and heard. This time, however, Jesus asked her to trust His Word and not His flesh; to be willing to testify without a touch.
Sometimes we feel “the touch of God” calming us, strengthening us and reassuring us that He is still in control. The truth is, His touch has often kept us from giving up or going over the edge. But sometimes He asks us to trust Him without the crutch of sensory perception. That’s faith at its highest level. (From the word for today)

"And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them." Jer 13:14 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."



So much for the love i guess... :?

Then the lord said to me, “Go to the cities of Judah and to the streets of Jerusalem. Proclaim my message there and tell the people to listen to the terms of the covenant and to obey them. When I brought their ancestors out of Egypt, I solemnly warned them to obey me, and I have kept on warning the people until this day. But they did not listen or obey. Instead, everyone continued to be as stubborn and evil as ever. I had commanded them to keep the covenant, but they refused. So I brought on them all the punishments described in it.” Jeremiah 11:6-8
That is in the Old Testament Jesus came to change all that, he is our salvation.
But anywho I think we are getting a little off topic…