People with careers, professionals, social phobia

bonafide

Member
Hello

I would like to hear the struggles of people and their work. If there any professional people here (suits, business owners, etc) I would be especially interested in hearing your dealings with social anxiety.

I am leaving a computer technical job after 4 months, and feel that a part of it is attributed to social phobia. I believe I struggle desperately with perfectionism as well, and a feel a total apathetic attitude towards my work as a whole.

Thanks

Matt
 

Emma

Well-known member
I wish I could say I was professional and successful, but alas, I am not...the place where I work turned half of its carpark into a BBQ area...and cooked us free sausages....hardly high stress working environment :p
 

Jael

Member
I can completely relate to you here. I have been in jobs long term, because it is just not the done thing in my family to 'not work'. An unspoken pressure now.

I manage to get through but never rise up the ranks. Every time I look into it, am encouraged or pushed with really good feedback, I realise that to get more money or a higher position means that I have to be socially NON phobic!!! Public speaking is my greatest fear, hosting a meeting, taking training or anything like that makes me rather wish I was dead. I experience extreme anxiety at the very thought of this. And no one I talk to understands. They laugh it off and say 'sure everyone feels like that'.

So I have stayed at a low wage my whole life and I'm getting so frustrated because I always see people rise up through the ranks who don't even work as well as me, but they are good socially. I just end up leaving and working somewhere else before the same thing happens again.

I just wish people would stop telling me what I should do for my career and how to do it. They just won't let me be. So I earn a little more than minimum wage. If I could get a magic wand and make my social phobia disappear in a puff of smoke I could take on the world. I could be as successful as everyone else and people could leave me alone!

I don't think I will ever realise my full potential...time is ticking and my dreams just seem out of reach because SP is just paralysing any career.

I am a perfectionist and am such a great worker! But if you can't speak and you can't network then it seems it accounts for nothing sometimes. I look for jobs away from my home town, definitely not dealing with customers and choosing jobs VERY carefully. I want to hide somewhere, not deal with any more people and work really hard and still be a success. Dream on eh!
 

doogiebklyn

Member
Hey Matt,

I have general social anxiety disorder. I had a sales position with a large travel company for about 3 years. It was actually very therapeutic for me, like CBT. But in most situations I was always "on" and I felt like I was performing or acting. It was exhausting and I felt like a fake.

I was good as long as the focus was on business, including presentations. Where I really struggled was after work activities, like having drinks with coworkers or after a trade show, lunch with customers, and other social situations. I would tend to make an appearance and then head up to my hotel room and order room service. I am fine one on one but tend to fade away in groups.

Then my role changed to a marketing position and I work from a home office now. What a dream for someone like me. But it has also hurt my social skills/confidence, I go out a lot less and have more anxiety now when I do.

Douglas
 

doogiebklyn

Member
Hi Jael,

I just read your reply to Matt and can relate to it. Early in my career I had a analytical job where I didn't have to deal with external customers, do presentations or such. Then I accepted a job as a call center supervisor. Yikes. I remember waiting outside a conference room with my legs shaking, sweating, and all flushed. I considered just leaving and never coming back. But I was frozen. Eventually I was called in and did a pretty bad presentation. BUT I survived and I didn't get fired and that made it a little easier the next time.

Believe it or not, now I am actually very good at it. In fact, I feel more nervous sitting through someone else's presentation, maybe getting asked a question, which to me feels like being put on the spot, which would make me blush, which would make people laugh and made fun of me. You get the picture. Now it's more of a control thing, as long as I am in control and standing up and others sitting down, I'm fine.

But that took lot of practice and disappointments along the way. But I learned to take the nervous energy and use it to my advantage. After you do your first good one, it's such a rush. Any way, I know what you're going through, but I'm glad I took the risk as it has allowed me to have a good career. Med's have really helped me, too.

Best,

Douglas
 
doogiebklyn said:
Hello

I was good as long as the focus was on business, including presentations. Where I really struggled was after work activities, like having drinks with coworkers or after a trade show, lunch with customers, and other social situations. I would tend to make an appearance and then head up to my hotel room and order room service. I am fine one on one but tend to fade away in groups.

I used to work in jobs that involved public service, which were not good fits for me. I could not deal with angry customers, constant interaction with strangers, feeling like I was on constant view of everyone coming in the front door, the sexual harassment from male clients, etc. The more uncomfortable and anxious I became about the job, the less effort I put into my work until I was completely burned out and quit.

After that I purposely chose a job where I would be working one-on-one with a case load of clients I would get to know very well. Now I'm a mental health counselor. It's turned out to be a very good fit for me, though the stressful aspects of the job (such as dealing with a schizophrenic person in an agitated, psychotic state) is not always a very healthy situation for me. My co-workers and my clients tell me I am very good it. I'm comfortable interacting with my co-workers because I've gotten to know them well and they are pretty open, friendly people. I'm comfortable with my clients because I have a lot of empathy for what they are experiencing, and I think they appreciate that. Many of them suffer from social anxiety in addition to a psychotic disorder. While my co-workers tell me I appear guarded or defensive, my clients tell me I am friendly and "real". There is a joke in the mental health services industry that many mental health professionals are mentally ill themselves, or seek social validation from clients. I think there is a lot of truth to that, because sometimes I feel like more comfortable interacting with my clients than I do with my friends or family! I never feel like they are judging me. They constantly give me positive feedback and thank me for my services to them. Many of them have faced constant rejection and humiliation since childhood, so a little bit of kindness and empathy go a long way. It makes me feel like a good person who makes a valuable contribution to society, and therefore I feel less social anxiety at work because I feel confident and respected by others because of what I do.

The only time I struggle is when managers or co-workers are not supportive or respectful toward me. I had one boss in particular that has a wide-spread reputation for being very nasty and aggressive in general, and I was always anxious and stressed while around her. Sometimes I would have an anxiety attack after receiving a phone call from her. I would blush and tremble while talking to her sometimes, even at times when I felt confident that I was doing good work and was viewed as a good employee. While other people were merely annoyed or even amused by her behavior, I was terrified that she might say or do something nasty to me, which she actually did a few times. I did not feel she did a very good job at recognizing or respecting my problem with social anxiety, which is odd because she is a mental health counselor herself. My current boss, thank goodness, is very considerate and seems to know how to put me at ease.

The only other time I struggle is when co-workers start asking personal questions. For example, one invited me out to lunch, which I thought was really nice until they said "I don't know much about you. Tell me about yourself." I told him as much as I could think of without even a second thought, but afterward he told me I was guarded! I honestly didn't know what more he could possibly wish to know, and it made me quite uncomfortable. I didn't feel like he had any less information about me than I did about him! Then he told me that all of my co-workers sat around talking about me one day, wondering what my life was like, who I was dating, etc. That made me pretty self-conscious, as you can imagine. He said he meant it in a positive way, but I found it hard to take in a positive way! And what's more, that's at least the second time that has happened to me in the work place. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise, since I'm no stranger to participating in office gossip. It would be hypocritical of me to think they wouldn't talk about me. But usually I gossip about people's quirky or problematic behavior at work, which is plainly visible to everyone and affects the immediate situation, not whatever they do in their personal lives. For me, that's always off limits and none of my business, so it weirds me out that my co-workers think my personal life is fair game.

Anyway, my point is, I get along fine at work as long as I have some autonomy, privacy, positive feedback and camaraderie with my co-workers. Without that, I find it difficult to get along.
 

HH

Well-known member
The world of work, oh joy. There is definately certain types of jobs I won't do like being a sales person or be in customer services, why? I think the main reason is people p*@s me off. Were I work at the moment is fine because its a small company and most of the time I'm left just to get on with it but years ago when I worked at a supermarket out on the shop floor and people were constantely asking me where stuff was I didn't like it. Hopefully one day I can just work part time so I am getting out the house and spend the rest of it at home doing my freelance work.
 

CPA23

Well-known member
Since I will be graduating from college soon, I will be entering the professional field. Of course, I'm anxious about this because it will be my first "professional" job outside of my part-time job I've had for years. I just hope everything will work out OK. I just want to be successful, but I know SA will rear its ugly head.
 
I don't want to have an office job. It's boring and I don't want to work with lots of collegues. Blue_Scholar makes a few points why i feel that way.
 

de

Well-known member
yeah i guess im 1 of the lucky ones then, i work in a wholesalers its a family run business so i have my dad and my brother there with me, there is also a very small staff a lot of them are chinenees anyway (which is good in a way because i dont have to talk to them but is very un-comfortable when they are standing around talking to each other in chinenees and i have to walk by them).ive been going there since i was a small child so i feel quite comfortable inside the warehouse i do have problems dealing with customers but thankfully that dosnt happen to often and is avoidable if im on the ball,
but recently i have had to start doing delivireys this is really difficult because i have to go into restaraunts and bars bring the stuff in usually through a back entrance and then walk into the shop or bar and ask somebody to sign the signature shee or to open the door so i can get in while they are all busy working,
i have had more sick days off since i started doing delivireys then in the 3 years previously my uncle who is one of the shareholders and would be in charge of the area that i work in thinks im a lazy git and is starting to hate me because of this and because i keep saying how much i hate doing delivireys and im always trying to get out of doing them and when i do go out i try to bring my brother with me on delivireys so he can take care of all the paperwork which leaves him short staffed inside,
i am finding it harder and harder to get up and go to work because of this.
if im really worked up over something sometimes i dont even know what ;even if im taking just 1 item of the shelf i end up re arranging the whole bloody thing the other day i rearranged the whole bloody fridge so all the items were stacked to an even height in even numbers which took me about a half an hour; it looked pretty damn good though when i was finished lol
 
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