negative thoughts = social anxiety

A little off topic, but I've always wondered if visual learning as opposed to auditory will reduce negative self-talk...
 

Sinar_Matahari

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I don't think that social anxiety is about negative thoughts alone, but I like what this man is saying. Thinking positive alone is not going to completely erdicate my anxiety.
 

Confuseddd

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I don't think that social anxiety is about negative thoughts alone, but I like what this man is saying. Thinking positive alone is not going to completely erdicate my anxiety.

no but perspective i believe is the key to changing completely... I have already discussed this many times, alittle redundent to say again i know but once you understand the theory it becomes almost clear, atleast for me it did, what you have to do.
 

just wanna b normal

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I don't think that social anxiety is about negative thoughts alone, but I like what this man is saying. Thinking positive alone is not going to completely erdicate my anxiety.

i think it does cuzz social phobia means fear of public speaking so ask yourself what is it that you fear see its all mind games or you might just need pratice...
 

lunaticbinge

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see? that's a negative thought right there, dude.

that's where it all starts

they say that a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step

I totally agree with your reasoning coyote. I'm just saying that it's difficult to change my thought processes after being negative for so long. It's ingrained in my mind so deeply. Lately, I've been trying to change my immediate reactions to things. The negativity is so strong however, that it makes the positivity seem feigned and empty.
 

just wanna b normal

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I totally agree with your reasoning coyote. I'm just saying that it's difficult to change my thought processes after being negative for so long. It's ingrained in my mind so deeply. Lately, I've been trying to change my immediate reactions to things. The negativity is so strong however, that it makes the positivity seem feigned and empty.

see hard but not impossible...of course its hard nothing is easy
 

Sinar_Matahari

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i think it does cuzz social phobia means fear of public speaking so ask yourself what is it that you fear see its all mind games or you might just need pratice...

I don't have a fear of public speaking. When I've stood up to speak in front of others, I did surprisingly well.

I know exactly what I fear, and I realize that my fears are not rational. Knowing this alone does not help. You will have to forgive me if I do not explain my reasoning further for the time being.
 

just wanna b normal

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I don't have a fear of public speaking. When I've stood up to speak in front of others, I did surprisingly well.

I know exactly what I fear, and I realize that my fears are not rational. Knowing this alone does not help. You will have to forgive me if I do not explain my reasoning further for the time being.

the whole point of this is to tell you to think positive not to inform you what you already know...
 

Kiwong

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Having positive thoughs and believing them is my problem. Particularly revolving around self esteem issues. The truth always interferes at some point.

I think that overly positive thinking can be irrational on its own. Like saying, I can fly, well I know I can't. You've got to change yourself enough so that there is a substance of truth in all the positive self talk. And changing the habits of a lifetime is hard.

I've had moments of real positivity the last couple of years. And I am thankful for this experience.
 

coyote

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I think that overly positive thinking can be irrational on its own. Like saying, I can fly, well I know I can't....

perhaps instead of "thinking positive", it is enough to stop the negative thinking

continually griping, blaming, complaining, criticizing, judging, condemning, finding fault with everything - what good does it do? how does it serve us?

it just keeps us stuck in the negative - a perpetual victim



you don't have to put on rose-colored glasses

but it certainly doesn't help your vision to wear a blindfold
 

just wanna b normal

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perhaps instead of "thinking positive", it is enough to stop the negative thinking

continually griping, blaming, complaining, criticizing, judging, condemning, finding fault with everything - what good does it do? how does it serve us?

it just keeps us stuck in the negative - a perpetual victim



you don't have to put on rose-colored glasses

but it certainly doesn't help your vision to wear a blindfold

yeah? definitely:D i agree...
 

UnOccupied

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LOVE this! This guys exactly right.

One(and probably only one) good thing about having SA is that it led me to CBT. I learned and truly believe from CBT that our thoughts are what makes our lives. It is just so amazing how true this is, and how so many people don't know this. Our thoughts are what makes everything in our life happen, and they are responsible for almost ALL our feelings.

I feel if i never had SA, i would have never truly realized this. And, i think when i get over my SA, i will be able to take my thoughts and mind to a new level, and live an extremely good life however i want to live it...because i know that our thoughts are the key.
 

hippiechild

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A little off topic, but I've always wondered if visual learning as opposed to auditory will reduce negative self-talk...
:D

This is actually really interesting! Sorta like something that I'd been thinking about too.. the ways that we anchor ourselves in our environment and get that sense of "being there."

We develop a connection to the exterior world through its interaction with our senses... and when those senses are deprived, we overcompensate with others to get that connection, e.g., a child who never or rarely experiences tactile interaction with others will learn to use their verbal(auditory) and visual senses to pick up the slack and achieve that feeling of integration.

So, in the case of modern society, with a severe lack of interpersonal touching, smelling and, to a degree, looking (often separated by walls, screens) people have trouble achieving a feeling of association to others without being verbal. In the absence of speech, they may feel that they aren't actually connected...

anyway, in regards to what you said.. it would be truly fascinating to see what kind of effect an increase in visual competence would have. Would there be some sort of visual substitution for the self-talk? ...ruminating visuals? Sensory substitution/supplementation therapy? ::p:
 
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