Job hunting

OceanMist

Well-known member
I just want to post about my current experience in job hunting. I'm working part time for delivery driver job right now and I'm looking for another part time job in my city. So far I've filled about 8 or 9 apps, with no luck yet.

I need this other job to pay for the apartment I'm about to get. I'm moving out of my parents' house no matter what. August 1st is the move out day.
 

mikebird

Banned
I've had no job, in hospital for a few months, searching, applying and interviewing for one and a half years exactly.

I feel uncomfortable
 

OceanMist

Well-known member
Update: I had an interview at Mcdonalds today. It didn't seem to go very well. One question about where I wanted to work and why threw me off, it was the why part.

Where do you want to work? I can work anywhere. If I have to choose, cook. Why do you want to do that? Uh, because that's what I think I'll be good at. Silence.......

It seemed like almost every question didn't go well according to the interviewer, and I've had interviews before so this wasn't my first rodeo so I do have an idea when maybe this interviewer aint liking me if you catch my drift. I think it's the same guy that didn't hire me last time I applied at this mcdonalds about 4 or 5 years ago?

Anyway, I've got another job interview on the 8th on Monday. I've also got to call back Burger King and Culvers.

Around ten apps turned in so far? No luck yet. I may have to go back to donating plasma twice a week if I can't get a job in the next two weeks.

Half my money was spent on the deposit and rent on the apartment, and i found out that move in is August 15th, not august 1st.
 

Richey

Well-known member
Well done, you are just going for it with full confidence, you have a few interviews already, you're getting more interview experience and you are really trying, something will happen eventually. in regards to the question at mcdonalds interview. you answered it with logic, so that's all you really needed to do, so you should be fine. interviews will usually have some awkward moments, and sometimes you'll have smoother interviews, it's just the normal part of things.

another option is to work for yourself in the meantime, perhaps you could get some business cards printed and offer some cleaning, mowing, free lance services in the local area. Because just say you earn 100-200 a week for four clients to start with, it certainly helps with paying bills and it's a good way to earn while you are looking for work. It's something that you can always test out for a couple of weeks.

I read that the hidden job market is probably 60-80% of the job market and the advice is to join some sporting clubs, hobby groups, go to events, walk into businesses and you will find work in no time.

For instance I went along to a careers convention and spoke to an I.T. expert. the guy standing next to him offered me work on the spot, he needed some programming done. Unfortunately I had never practiced that sort of programming so had to decline the job offer. But the whole idea of going along to conventions, fairs, presentations is to educate yourself on aspects of finding work/careers that you may not know about. If you can just ask questions to insider experts, you can walk out with vast knowledge on how to approach finding work.

I mean, a lot of people just think, apply for jobs online and that's it. which is only 10-20% of the jobs market, and people who only use 1-2 popular job search websites are limiting themselves to probably 1% of the jobs market. So 10-20% of the jobs market covers all of the 100s of different job search sites out there.

it's never easy, looking for work.
 
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MotherWolff

Banned
It must feel good to know that you do not need to depend on anyone, especially your parents, anymore! Congratulations!:thumbup:
 
I'm proud of you OceanMist. It takes some guts to do all that. Congrats. Too bad you probably aren't anywhere local, you could come work at the plant.
 

mmok

Member
Good luck!

I think moving out is an important step in everyones life and especially for people who have Social anxiety!
 

Pacific_Loner

Pirate from the North Pole
10 app. is not much, you might have to send 50-60 resumes to end up being hired. And you'll probably get more luck by the end of the summer when the students go back to school.

Congrats for moving out and good luck :)
 

mikebird

Banned
Update: I had an interview at Mcdonalds today. It didn't seem to go very well. One question about where I wanted to work and why threw me off, it was the why part.

Where do you want to work? I can work anywhere. If I have to choose, cook. Why do you want to do that? Uh, because that's what I think I'll be good at. Silence.......

It seemed like almost every question didn't go well according to the interviewer, and I've had interviews before so this wasn't my first rodeo so I do have an idea when maybe this interviewer aint liking me if you catch my drift. I think it's the same guy that didn't hire me last time I applied at this mcdonalds about 4 or 5 years ago?
.

From all my interview experience (257)
What I detect here:
The rift between employer and employee, and what we each want

They want someone who's done it all before, a lot.
Maybe the 'why' part wants you to sell yourself and say "I love flipping burgers and adding salad and cheese! I do it every day at home!!!" Or they expect you to be the captain of the cooking team... and expect you to want to

They want you to be an expert in Health & Safety, equipment, ovens, fryers... salad, all ingredients, lighting, cleaning.. what to wear, shift times you don't know about, prodding you into a corner. Without asking, I bet they wanting you to be the front person, smiling and a decade of selling to customers

4/5 years ago was not NOW. It had nothing to that situation. The boss might have been stupid, intoxicated... amputated... unable to write and sign the agreement... deal, partially blind..

By typing this, I'm revealing my darkside of going off-topic, on a tangent, as the default defence mechanism I seem to show in interview

I try the humble, quiet approach,but every interviewer want you to dance around the room and laugh

Do you think being disliked goes hand-in-hand with no employment? They spiral around each other - helically in increasing orbit or decline?
Need one to surface to get feng shui with both? A way out?
 
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OceanMist

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10 app. is not much, you might have to send 50-60 resumes to end up being hired. And you'll probably get more luck by the end of the summer when the students go back to school.

Congrats for moving out and good luck :)

The problem with that is I'm about out of places that are hiring for part time work that I can do. Finding 50-60 jobs that I can can be potentially hired at wouldn't be possible in my city unless I waited like 2 years and applied throughout that whole time period. My city is about 75,000 people right now. There select few of jobs that are hiring.

My city's classified section in the paper fills up like a quarter of a page to give you an idea of the job market or lack there of.
 
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mikebird

Banned
I've been exploring the dirt scene for idiots to feed controllers with your physical body ability

Any compromise is better than having no life

Vice versa, commandment will need a :) :perfect: actor
with an established relationship

GULP! :sad:
 

OceanMist

Well-known member
I've got a big potential problem that concerns me. I have this old *** beat up truck, and it's looking like I'll have to search for work in a city that is at least 40+ miles round trip. My dad got rid of this truck a while back in fear of the truck's floor breaking in two, and no I'm not kidding about that.

I drove the truck in the city for about a year or so but I'm not sure if it can make it for a commuting job of that many miles on the highway. I could be risking my life. But, I also feel like I have no choice but to take this chance and look for work that is 40+ miles away.

I hate this situation I'm in right now.
 

mikebird

Banned
My car is the best of 3 so far. I rely on it to get me to interviews / work, ever since 2008, having to wait a year without a license due to epeleptic episode. 1997 car which I've paid for repairs and been well beyond my 50 mile radius each day. All car owners will mock me in this scrapheap. I've learnt to trust a machine that works and to give it my attention. I'm waiting for the moment when it becomes obsolete for any reason
 
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OceanMist

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An interview tomorrow for me. Probably my last hope before I have to start donating plasma again if I don't get the job. There's another interview but it's for a 55 to 60 hour a week job and I don't want to leave the job I have now just to do that job because if i get canned from the high hour job then I'd be totally screwed.

I'll ask for less hours at the 2nd interview and see what he says if i don't get the job at the first interview. I probably just confused you guys, my bad.

I'm crazy doing what I'm doing, signing a year lease and paying $1260 for deposit and first month's rent, all with a 14 hour/week $8/hour job. I had to though, if I wanted to get out of my parents' house. They are coming back in August, and I wanna be out of here by the 15th of August.

Someone's gotta hire me.....i sure freaking hope so.
 

mikebird

Banned
An interview tomorrow for me. Probably my last hope before I have to start donating plasma again if I don't get the job. There's another interview but it's for a 55 to 60 hour a week job and I don't want to leave the job I have now just to do that job because if i get canned from the high hour job then I'd be totally screwed.

I'll ask for less hours at the 2nd interview and see what he says if i don't get the job at the first interview. I probably just confused you guys, my bad.

I'm crazy doing what I'm doing, signing a year lease and paying $1260 for deposit and first month's rent, all with a 14 hour/week $8/hour job. I had to though, if I wanted to get out of my parents' house. They are coming back in August, and I wanna be out of here by the 15th of August.

Someone's gotta hire me.....i sure freaking hope so.

Blood donation became impossible for me, just as anything military which I really would have done better with my life, and both thing are linked to my mess of an immune system.

Told to do no contact sports. I was a bleeder.

Excuse I never want to use. It wasn't my fault to be born with an abnormal condition.

I did recently think of blood donation as I see mobile units in town where you can give blood. I spent all my young life with needles up my arms..

An entertainment I like the idea of is to offer myself for this. I was told I could never donate, so I didn't have to think about that. Nobody would be accepted by the military - if they had no way to clot. I do wish I signed up by not telling them I was a bleeder. Could have lied. They might have checked the blood and told no. I bet lies do work. I wish I never mentioned and maybe died in war or any reason for blood loss, by keeping my situation quiet. Anyone admitting they have migraine would be stupid. I don't think there's a formal diagnosis for that? Nobody has to say 'this bit here hurt once' My failure was purely social anxiety then. Didn't have the confidence to pretend my health was perfect. Wish I'd played sport. Then I could be a champion of football, rugby, cricket, boxing... despite being told about thin blood which really did cause colossal bruising. Very bad for brain. That'd be why it was discovered and diagnosed. What a limp way to give up. Should have ignored it.

But I assume everyone is stupid. My idea is to try it. The medical fools (simple phlebotomy) might easily be fooled if they asked if I had any condition... I mean nobody would ask because 100% of people are perfect. They'd get the blood type? Seriously, I wonder where the line is drawn. I think all medical people are stupid and careless and get paid for it by apparently being clever. I feel like trying. Any approach of the pleasant smiler might put me off - either way. I wonder how deep the checks go. Maybe I'd be milked for 8 pints, and told later that my plasma was worthless.

My repeated requests for a quick FBC since I was 30 to find out the status of the blood have all been ignored. Why? No allowed to know?

In the van, that ignorance of personal right to know your own physical state would be met by accusation via any tools available to mutilate the staff as an infringement of policy and failure to conduct any logic. Maybe later. Once my built-in plasma freak condition would be passed to the public who were in need of my blood type. Then, one more time, if the donation was successful and made people healthy, I'd have to get back to why I was told at ground level that my blood was bad. Having been kept in the dark about facts
 

OceanMist

Well-known member
Job interview on Monday went pretty bad. It's the first interview I've ever had where loud music was playing and the interviewer was speaking in a quiet tone to where I could barely hear her.

Anyway, she wanted a person who is very outgoing and is overly-enthusiastic about the job. I don't feel that way about any job, so of course, I'm not going to get excited about a fast food job. Maybe you guys are good faking enthusiasm, but on Monday, I sure wasn't feeling like faking it.

I was forced to lie on a few of the questions, such as do you like conversations with customers at your job you have now? My answer, yeah (that's a lie, btw. I don't mind talking to people at my job but do I enjoy it, eh, not really). What am I supposed to say there, anything besides saying I like or love to talk to people is definitely not going to get me hired.

To top it off she tells me there were hundreds of applicants for this one position. Yes, I said it....hundreds.

The interview left me frustrated afterward. I played a basketball game last night and just forgot about the whole job thing and today I'm moving on and going to keep applying and doing follow-up calls.

did a follow-up call to mcdonalds. They said "if they want me, they'll call me back." which is usually code for you'll never hear from us again.

This.....freaking.....sucks.

This is one of the hardest times of my life right now. I'm closer to moving out and don't have a 2nd job and it's looking grim right now. Well, who knows, maybe someone will let me work for them. It's not over yet.

One week away from donating plasma twice a week. Sticking a needle in my arm is no way to live. I can't believe i have to go back there again.
 
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mikebird

Banned
overly-enthusiastic

This pins it down. The encyclopaedia of interviews

I don't know where to begin

Dragon's Den?
Lord Sir Alan Sugar The Apprentice?

Dress up as a clown?
Bring a little karaoke system and sing all interview

My ultimate fantasy job would be a 'hiring manager' one day
to heavily over criticise any applicant that wasn't exactly like me. I'd ask a lot of tough questions to make people extremely emotional

I'd like to start with a bone-crunching handshake to make them shiver because it might be lawful. See how they react to be floored using Aikido

I'd thrive at interview if they started with criticism: we hate you. You're very ugly, slow, stupid. Tell me a reason to make you appealing. I'd be laughing
 

Richey

Well-known member
Job interview on Monday went pretty bad. It's the first interview I've ever had where loud music was playing and the interviewer was speaking in a quiet tone to where I could barely hear her.

Anyway, she wanted a person who is very outgoing and is overly-enthusiastic about the job. I don't feel that way about any job, so of course, I'm not going to get excited about a fast food job. Maybe you guys are good faking enthusiasm, but on Monday, I sure wasn't feeling like faking it.

I was forced to lie on a few of the questions, such as do you like conversations with customers at your job you have now? My answer, yeah (that's a lie, btw. I don't mind talking to people at my job but do I enjoy it, eh, not really). What am I supposed to say there, anything besides saying I like or love to talk to people is definitely not going to get me hired.

To top it off she tells me there were hundreds of applicants for this one position. Yes, I said it....hundreds.

The interview left me frustrated afterward. I played a basketball game last night and just forgot about the whole job thing and today I'm moving on and going to keep applying and doing follow-up calls.

did a follow-up call to mcdonalds. They said "if they want me, they'll call me back." which is usually code for you'll never hear from us again.

This.....freaking.....sucks.

This is one of the hardest times of my life right now. I'm closer to moving out and don't have a 2nd job and it's looking grim right now. Well, who knows, maybe someone will let me work for them. It's not over yet.

One week away from donating plasma twice a week. Sticking a needle in my arm is no way to live. I can't believe i have to go back there again.

You could try letterbox dropping some basic cards offering to dog sit, vacuum, gardening. You can just be yourself and i'm sure you'd get some work. Whilst still looking for work.
 

mikebird

Banned
The prerequisites of being extremely gleeful is tough;
acting should be easy, but isn't

Have a sharp scratch in your skin / arm (they should say that) should be easy to get used to after the first time. You'll get something good from it. You can't use your own microscope to delve into your own blood cells snapshot. Depending what you want to know, I find the annoying thing is when nobody tells you and keeps the details secret, pretending it's boring or doesn't matter.

I struggle listening to anyone's words even when it's silent in the room, as usual. You'll help me use the excuse of noise, especially on a phone, which can never be defined by the source, eg. jackhammer in the street, traffic, planes, voices, fans, flushing toilets... anything...

Debate or negotiation shouldn't be considered. This is my new idea.

Someone should start and say everything they want to.
Then the other takes their turn. √ OVER & OUT

I never want to ask questions, or poked by any. It's unnecessary. No random anonymous phone call

I want to tell people about me and why I have arrived where they invited me to be there and what I can for for them, because they need it

BUT they don't listen. They don't want to listen. They don't know what they want. I follow the description I have from the. They have no perception of what it means.

The moment someone asks me some question, they always regret it. People don't want to hear. I want to say something for the person.

At he end, I'm asked if I have any questions for them. I live by the simple plan for preparing questions. From now, I will make everything different by ignoring this. I'll say "NO" My usual response always was "we covered every topic now". My head was full of their rubbish, either happy or bored. I'll say "NO", by demonstrating that I know / heard everthing I need. Respect
 
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