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Old 07-26-2007
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Hi,

What do you think is the best device in the market ?

Drionic - http://www.drionic.com/

Idromed 4 - http://www.beathyperhidrosis.com/ion...s-products.htm

Fischer MD-1a - http://www.rafischer.com/prod05.htm#Hyperhidrosis

Idrodtar - http://www.stdpharm.co.uk/iontophore...-machines.html

Thanks,

M.
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Old 07-27-2007
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http://www.iontophoresis-device.com/

I bought the Idromed 4 from that website. Works fantastic!
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Old 07-29-2007
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Funny you should ask this question cause I was just about to do the same thing.

Follow up though; Are the differences just in practicality, or do the idromed and idrostar actually work better in reducing the sweating?
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Old 07-29-2007
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Hi again,

Looking at the respective sites a view things caught my attention; apart from that the site for drionic is less than impressive :P . Maybe someone can help me with this.

1 Why do you need a prescription for the RA Fisher machine and not for the others (what's the difference that makes for this requirement)? Is it better/more powerful?

2 How deep are the trays? It seems to me like they are mostly quite shallow, which could be a problem for me, since the tops of my fingers/toes as well as the sides of my feet tend to sweat as well. I know you can do some adjusting but I think it's probably best to use it like it's been manufactured in the first place. For instance, Is the current diluted much when using external larger trays?
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Old 07-30-2007
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Hi there, thanks for the info.

Sorry to hear your feet are sweating again. Are your hands still dry though? I'm on the brink of ordering one of these machines, but I sort of have to make an informed guess how well it's going to work for me at this point. Since you have as far as I can judge quite similar HH compared to myself I can really need as much info about how well/badly it works as I can get.

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I bought the Idromed 4 from that website. Works fantastic!
That's good news. I think I'm about to do the same, but before that, can you tell me something more about the dimensions of the trays and also how many treatments you have to take, are your hands feet dry now? Do you use additives to the water? I'm hoping I can do without the medicine, cause I'm categorically against side effects
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Old 07-31-2007
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Hi,

I did some rasearch of my own.
I think that the Fischer is better because it can go up to 50mA.
I can take 20mA easily.
The Idromed go to 25mA tops.

In my first post I ask about this:
http://www.beatpsoriasis.com/idromed4.htm

And seekinghelp wrote about this:
http://www.iontophoresis-device.com/

The first one ask 900USD and the second 600USD !!!
For the same machine !!!

Now, I have to do some thinking - Is it will be
the Idromed or the Fischer.

M.
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Old 07-31-2007
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Hi Pinker,

It's good to know that you have the option to go high in the mA,
althought I agree that 25mA is fair enought.

On the subject - I read an article that talk about changing polarity
during treatment. What does it mean ? Is it to rotate the palm in
the bath ? Is it importent and if so, why ?

P.S - I did emailed him and the price include S&H.

M.
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Old 07-31-2007
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The Fischer requires a prescription because it's in the USA. I know it's stupid.

I kind of relate that to contact lenses, and how you need a prescription for them. I believe that once you pay to get your eyes checked and figure out your contact numbers, you should be able to freely purchase the contact lenses that you need. I mean, how much damage can I do to myself with contact lenses compared to, let's say, pain killers.

Since iontophoresis is a medical device, the same precautions are "needed."

In my situation, my doctor didn't believe in iontophoresis so I couldn't get a prescription. I took matters into my own hands and decided to purchase the Idromed 4 @ http://www.iontophoresis-device.com/

As far as going up to 50mA with the Fischer, I think that is excessive. I treat my hands at 10mA and my feet at 18mA. Even at those respective currents, the tingling sensation is quite evident. Unless you're a Hobbit or you wrestle bears all day long, going up to 50mA would be painful.

As for the depth of the trays: I put the water up to where the hair grows on top of my hands. That way, the finger tips and sides are submerged. My hands have been completely dry, including sides and fingertips. Also, Vaseline is your best friend here. I rub it on top of my hands to avoid burning. On my feet, the water goes over the toes and up on the sides. The bottom of my feet are completely dry but the sides tend to sweat a little bit. The feet will be the hardest to treat.

Hope this helps.


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Old 08-01-2007
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Hi seekinghelp,

It's great that it's working so well for you. Especially since the discription of your HH you have given is almost freakishly similar to mine, which makes me think this could be good for me as well. You have the idromed 4 GS right? There's a PS available too right now, but I don't know if it is as effective.

On another note; I stopped wearing contacts 2 years ago when my eyes seemed to get all irritated (I had monthly lenses). I'm thinking about trying some daily lenses now. At that time they were a lot more expensive but not so much anymore.
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Old 08-01-2007
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Yes, I have the Idromed 4 GS.

I reckon the PS version is just as effective as the GS but take note that the PS version is required if you want to treat your armpits.

To be honest, I am unsure how effective armpit treatments can be via iontophoresis. I'm not doubting it could work but it's difficult to imagine how iontophoresis can be applied in such an awkward area. I'm thinking if it does work, then you should be able to treat the back of the knees too, that is if you sweat there.

But yea, my hands and feet were a priority as far as treatment. Now that I got that settled, I am thinking about Sweat-stop forte+ for the armpits.

Good luck!
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