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Ralphy

Member
Hello people, i've joined this forum because i've been feeling so low and worthless lately that i don't see much point in living anymore.

I've suffered from hyperhidrosis since my late teens (i'm 26 now) and it has completely ruined my life.

I have my own place and an ok(ish) job but single and very lonely.

I feel myself burning up when in hot rooms and sweat pours from my face.

I've been to the doctors millions of times to be told that nothing can be done and i once lost my temper and kicked the bin and stormed out of his surgery.

I see no future for me anymore :(
 

teandtoast

Well-known member
hey dude know how you feel this is a horrible depressing condition to have

what have you tried ? have you tried any oral medications ? I have just found one in UK which is a first after 4 yrs and working quite well for me so u never know something may work for u still youve not tried

try keep ur head up though (as hard as is i know) :wink:
 
hey teandtoast,

Don't be so down on yourself, HH is a horrible social condition, but at least its not life threatening. There are many people who suffer the same out there and as Ralphy said, there are options out there for you.

Perhaps you need to speak with a different doctor (there are some good websites links from this forum, just look around) who understands or specializes this condition. I've never personally tried oral medication but I see from browsing the forum that it has worked for many people with your condition. I have really bad palmer / planter HH and itonpherosis has worked well for me.

Remember too that curing your HH will not automatically translate to an instant cure for problems in your life - loneliness. You will still need the courage to reach out to socially (albeit without sweat dripping) and I'm sure you'll find that the people who respond to your friendship and those who you naturally click with would treat you the same whether you had HH or not.

take care and I hope you'll try out some medications to see if they work.
 

Hyper-Hydro

Well-known member
Sorry, but I have to contradict BellBottoms on this. Definitely leave out any medications. Eating chemicals will not fix it, on the contrary.

HH can be very complex, but the reasons for most HH are usually quite simple. Realizing what´s causing YOUR HH, might not be what you expected. It´s important to understand, that sweating is completely natural, and important to our metabolism, although it may be annoying.

So when is sweating excessive and necessary to treat?

I usually get a lot of flak about this, but being overweight creates HH, usually because overweight people overdress.

Wearing the wrong sort of clothes emphasize the problem: Cotton really isn´t good for people who sweat, neither are artificial fibres. Smart shoes are usually useless.

If your excessive sweating qualifies as HH, there are only a few really good remedies, and I would study Pinker´s list, if you want to get a good overview, but if you want my opinion, forget about surgeons and expensive treatments and medications. Even botox solutions are not really that effective in other respects than cleaning out your wallet.

Iontoforesis and simple aluminum chloride based topicals are the only good and practical solutions.
 

teandtoast

Well-known member
Hyper-Hydro said:
Sorry, but I have to contradict BellBottoms on this. Definitely leave out any medications. Eating chemicals will not fix it, on the contrary.

HH can be very complex, but the reasons for most HH are usually quite simple. Realizing what´s causing YOUR HH, might not be what you expected. It´s important to understand, that sweating is completely natural, and important to our metabolism, although it may be annoying.

So when is sweating excessive and necessary to treat?

I usually get a lot of flak about this, but being overweight creates HH, usually because overweight people overdress.

Wearing the wrong sort of clothes emphasize the problem: Cotton really isn´t good for people who sweat, neither are artificial fibres. Smart shoes are usually useless.

If your excessive sweating qualifies as HH, there are only a few really good remedies, and I would study Pinker´s list, if you want to get a good overview, but if you want my opinion, forget about surgeons and expensive treatments and medications. Even botox solutions are not really that effective in other respects than cleaning out your wallet.

Iontoforesis and simple aluminum chloride based topicals are the only good and practical solutions.

you are a dick mate and obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about ...your comments are actually laughable they are so stupid

oh yeh obviously HH is caused by something isnt it which we can find out and fix :roll: doctors, research etc have never found the root problem of HH otherwise everyone would be able to fix it ...

u think aluminium chloride products are the best for HH...do u even have fucking HH to start with...have u even tried these products...odaban, driclor etc etc they are a cunt to use as they sting like fck, hard to sleep on, often leave your skin irritated, your body becomes immune to them...yes this maybe my experience of them but is plenty of others aswell and using those products is only a temporary solution and a cuntish one at that having to often use daily

botox is a great option if it works for u....I have experience of this myself and so have many others..yes may hurt having done but so what it lasts for while and u can get on with things having to worry not so much for few months...that is great in my opinion...and u talk of cleaning out your wallett...u heard of the NHS (if in uk) is free ...

oral meds have just started working for me...best thing that has worked for me in 4 years in having HH and trying everything I can before surgery so dont tell others not to try them when they are looking for something that works

basically u talk shit ...come back when u know what your talking about and dont hand out shit advice
 

Ralphy

Member
Hyper Hydro, i'm 26 years old, a postman and run 5 miles, 3 times a week.

I'm 5 foot 8 ins and weigh 11 stone 4 pounds.

Would you say i'm lazy and overweight?

I have facial hyperhidrosis that is totally ruining my life.

There is a very hyper and confident person trapped in this body because my sweating stops everything.

How would you feel if going to the barber shop was a scary thought? Or going round someone's for dinner was out of the question?

Think before you speak you cock.
 

woofytalk

Well-known member
I'm sorry for your depression. It wasn't long ago that I was in your shoes. There are a lot of treatments available on this forum. Have you tried any of the following treatments?

-Drysol
-Certain Dri
-Iontophoresis
-Natural Tannin Tea Solutions
- Maxim facial wipes
- ETS surgery

There is hope. don't give up.
 

Ralphy

Member
I was told by a surgeon in the UK that ETS surgery was good for sweating of the hands but not so much the face?

I really don't see a way out of this and it's made me a bitter, angry person. :(
 

bill-uk

Well-known member
I tend to view 2 sites on this topic. This one and the esfb channel. A few years back I recall someone named Hyper-Hydro being banned from one of these, I don't recall which site, for offensive and abusive posts. Posts that were not helpful. The name may be a coincidence and if so I apologise for mentioning it.

What I do know is that Probanthine helps me and I urge you all to try different solutions that may help you individually. No one on here is experienced enough to stipulate what is and isn't a cure or worthwhile trying. We all have different symptons and degrees of HH and what works for one will not work for another. But none of us can dismiss a remedy that clearly does work for some and is worth consideration for others.
 

Hyper-Hydro

Well-known member
Dear teandtoast. Thanks for your remarkably sharp analysis of my situation. You´ve clearly read the bulk of my insignificant posts and understand the scope of it to the core, at a much higher level than me, in spite of your only 4 years of experience with excessive sweating. I´m very grateful that you have taken your grace to step down to my level, exposing my pitiful superficial person.
I skimmed the surface of the ocean of your own extensive and most impressing resources here at Social Phobia World, to get a hint of what might be the origin of your vast human insight and wit. But I´m foundering at whether it may be, that you´re still living with your mother in between your week-end drinking binges, or the fact that you don´t eat anything throughout the day, which has caused your unique intellect to arise. Sir, I am in awe at the powers of your observation. Are you 20-33 % over, or are you in the distinctly obese category though ? Do you have your type 2 diabecy diagnosed yet? The descriptions of your life style in mind, merely a question of time I should think.

Don´t even consider ETS if you want to hear my point of view. I tried it, when I was as desperate as you. I had no good experience with sleek surgeons passing time away from the country club. And sweet, desolate Ralphy, may you regain the lust for life soon. If from the murky pit of your navel, you could look beyond the ranges in the horizon but for a moment only, you might read my first post in this string again, and see that I was making an innocent general point, rather than commenting on your specific case. Unlike someone else in here, you might also do me the favour of taking your own excellent advice, rather than steep in malicious choice of words.

There is certainly hope. I believe there could be a solution in reviewing and recombining diet. Atleast I found that some of my own uncontrollable sweating is connected to my choice of foods. E.g. even the mildest chili can make me sweat uncontrollably, and certain fruits e.g. apples can also provoke sweat on my forehead, although they don´t always, so it may be down to which species of apples I eat. Painstaking registry of what you eat, studying food declarations and learning about nutrition could be a way ahead. I´m not trying to diagnose anybody, and I´m not making this comment with any specific focus on your situation though, so relax ok? Cheer up, spring is coming.

Bill-uk, thanks for your post about things you don´t recall, but which you nevertheless seem to think have a bearing on this string. If you want to have an understanding of what is it you´re writing about, you can find all the original posts from ESFB channel posted in this forum, including the posts ED at ESFB deleted to cover up for themselves. I don´t intend to discuss those posts with you or anyone else though. I made the information available for people in this forum to make their own assessment of ESFB channel.
 

teandtoast

Well-known member
Hyper-Hydro said:
Dear teandtoast. Thanks for your remarkably sharp analysis of my situation. You´ve clearly read the bulk of my insignificant posts and understand the scope of it to the core, at a much higher level than me, in spite of your only 4 years of experience with excessive sweating. I´m very grateful that you have taken your grace to step down to my level, exposing my pitiful superficial person.
I skimmed the surface of the ocean of your own extensive and most impressing resources here at Social Phobia World, to get a hint of what might be the origin of your vast human insight and wit. But I´m foundering at whether it may be, that you´re still living with your mother in between your week-end drinking binges, or the fact that you don´t eat anything throughout the day, which has caused your unique intellect to arise. Sir, I am in awe at the powers of your observation. Are you 20-33 % over, or are you in the distinctly obese category though ? Do you have your type 2 diabecy diagnosed yet? The descriptions of your life style in mind, merely a question of time I should think.

Don´t even consider ETS if you want to hear my point of view. I tried it, when I was as desperate as you. I had no good experience with sleek surgeons passing time away from the country club. And sweet, desolate Ralphy, may you regain the lust for life soon. If from the murky pit of your navel, you could look beyond the ranges in the horizon but for a moment only, you might read my first post in this string again, and see that I was making an innocent general point, rather than commenting on your specific case. Unlike someone else in here, you might also do me the favour of taking your own excellent advice, rather than steep in malicious choice of words.

There is certainly hope. I believe there could be a solution in reviewing and recombining diet. Atleast I found that some of my own uncontrollable sweating is connected to my choice of foods. E.g. even the mildest chili can make me sweat uncontrollably, and certain fruits e.g. apples can also provoke sweat on my forehead, although they don´t always, so it may be down to which species of apples I eat. Painstaking registry of what you eat, studying food declarations and learning about nutrition could be a way ahead. I´m not trying to diagnose anybody, and I´m not making this comment with any specific focus on your situation though, so relax ok? Cheer up, spring is coming.

Bill-uk, thanks for your post about things you don´t recall, but which you nevertheless seem to think have a bearing on this string. If you want to have an understanding of what is it you´re writing about, you can find all the original posts from ESFB channel posted in this forum, including the posts ED at ESFB deleted to cover up for themselves. I don´t intend to discuss those posts with you or anyone else though. I made the information available for people in this forum to make their own assessment of ESFB channel.

Fuck me that made for boring reading...
You should stop making stupid assumptions you fool...I am from obese if anything I am under weight for my age.

Weight has nothing to do with HH anyway...yes fat people may sweat more than thin people doesn't mean they have HH.

No-one has mentioned him getting ETS so why do you suggest he shouldn't when the idea of doing it wasn't even there in the 1st place.

Dismissing other options which have worked for alot of other people (such as botox) is just stupid and not helpful.

Anyway please don't reply with another one of your lengthy boring I'm so intelligent replies...u quite obviously aren't the HH know it all as u would like to think....u certainly are one cool mother fooker thats for certain 8)
 

bill-uk

Well-known member
I didn't recall which site, but thank you for the clarification of the site from which you've been banned and also for your helpful response to teandtoast and myself.

Ralphy, I wish you well in your quest for solutions, I have the same condition on the face and head and have done since I was an 18 year old very fit teenager playing sports at county level. Both topical and oral medications are available as posted by Pinker in the first post and I would suggest starting with the topical ones first. Secure wipes ( from www.pharmacy.ca) seem to help many people but they were not effective for me, nor was anhydrol, so I eventually tried Probanthine orally but only in exceptional conditions and it seems to be working for me. As Hyper-Hydro stated, diet and exercise may help some and it sure does alleviate the condition, but the excessive nature of this sometimes calls for other measures as I have found personally. Good luck and post back how you are doing.
 

Hyper-Hydro

Well-known member
Well Bill, it seems to me you remembered the site well enough to mention it in your post, but nothing about what actually went on there. If you have any beef with me about that, I think you should come out more clearly and directly about it, instead of slipping in here, pissing in the corner of the room and slip out as if nothing happened.
 

anniegal

Member
What you're going thru is hell. I'm nearly 50 and I can tell you from my on experience that you have to take one day at a time. Just keep in mind that tomorrow you may feel better. Maybe not that much but it can vary from day to day. There is hope! The problem we have hinders us. Just keep in mind that what we feel is terrible but not hopeless. I know from experience. Just take it one day at a time! No matter how horrible you feel, your life is precious! Life is hard for everyone. We just have a few more problems. Life is about struggles and surviving. Hang in there!
 

linuxiol

Member
Hey people, calm down!

I don't wanna sound patronising but we are all in this together. It's hard enough to deal with f ** idiots that make fun of us people with HH, so we don't need to be nasty and rude to each other.

I, for one, will not ever consider ETS as even though i would give EVERYTHING to permanently get rid of this nasty condition (even millions if i had any!), i would not consider ETS because i would not take the risk, HH all over my body would mean the end of everything and i think i'd rather kill myself.

As for bottox, well, why not if you can afford it and don't mind having a treatment every 3 months or so.

I would sugget, if you havent' tried already, to start from the basic : odaban in combinaison with other natural stuff. Maybe it won't work but you have to try several things before choosing the extreme and more invasive methods.

As for GP's, well forget . They don't have a clue about HH. I might acually see one again but ONLY so that he can refer me to a dermatologist. Even then, i don't have much hope. Your best option is to 'shop around' on the net and see what's work for you. I have a very severe form of plantar HH and i have managed to reduce the sweating a lot.

Good luck :)
 

Ralphy

Member
Can anyone with facial HH advise me where to start?

I have a dentist appointment coming up soon and i'm not looking forward to it. I feel so ashamed if I start to pour with sweat.

It's no wonder i'm single with zero confidence.
 

HH

Well-known member
hi ralphy. Try spraying odaban on your forehead at night, that might work. Or secure wipes from www.pharmacy.ca or maybe avert tablets again from pharmacy.ca gives these a try its worth a shot, oh i've just thought maybe maxim wipes as well. hope that helps
 

JP81

Well-known member
hey Ralph, your situation sounds similar to mine - I'm 26, had HH since my early 20s and have BAD facial/cranial HH along with just about everywhere else on my body, face/cranium being the most distressing. And yes, lonely too - the last 4 years have been hell. They say 1 in 100 people have HH but I have never in my life come across anyone with it as bad as mine the only people I talk to about it are the few people on here.

I've caved in and bought medication from that pharmacy.ca site just recently and they do work to a degree though I am a bit concerned about side effects.
 
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