Heixi Therapy! Heixi Therapy! Heixi Therapy, dammit!

Jacky 1980 is destroying this forum.

She is obviously here to hawk her services and exploit us for money. She PM's people acting as if she is particularly interested, but if you PM back with any real response, she won't get back to you. Apparently she wants only to answer questions about Heixi Therapy and to get the PIN number to your credit card.

It makes me particularly sick to see people with real needs responding to her threads and sharing their heart pain, when all she is is a spam bot who probably doesn't even read the thread.

Do a little search for this "Heixi Therapy" nonsense, and you will see that she advertises it in every internet forum for psychological issues. The only posts she makes are about "HEIXI THERAPY!"

Why should a quarter of the threads on this subforum be devoted to this "Heixi Therapy" nonsense? And now, I see that she has created a sock puppet to ask questions about Heixi Therapy so that she can respond, pretending as if there is a real interest in this.

I say, Go away. The moderators should do something about people who come here looking only to get our e-mail addresses and get our money.

Google searches also reveal that she posts comments to blogs about "Heixi Therapy" even if the blog is discussing something completely unrelated. This is typical spam bot behavior and this is one of the things that destroys the value of the internet.

She can dump her text in other forums, but the moderators should not allow her to use this forum as her dumping ground.

None of us really know another persons intention because life is quite deceptive. Unless we judge for ourself that individual or organisation through our own experience and what is really driving them, then we will never know for sure.

Whatever the intention that is guiding all these posts to the Social Phobia World forum about "Heixi Therapy" is certainly drawing a mixed variety of opinions.

This is not to say however that this is all for selfish reasons. "Heixi Therapy" is great for many people and works and maybe to start a program or whatever you need to make a payment/donation to help with the continuation of their volunteers, who knows?

The issue here is the skillfulness of how a person introduces that therapy to a group of people at a specific forum, SPW.

In my experience, it is not wise to bombard people with all these messages as it just causes people to reject and automatically creates an untrust. This in turn creates an untrue perception of what "Heixi Therapy" is all about thus damaging any chances of people actually gaining any real benefit from it.

So i feel Jacky should now cease promoting 'Heixi Therapy' and give us what's in her heart by way of experience so that the label doesn't actually get in the way of her actually wanting to help others here.

James

First of all, Jacky taled me that he is a man???? Why are you saying she????
Second of all he has asked me money for his therapy in advance (and a lot of money) and i sad no.
I really like his ideas and think it has so much to offer to others but it is to expensive and particulary if you have to give it all in advance.

Haha, He/she/it certainly does get around the internet. I think Jacky needs to limit the messages to one thread. Its a little overdone to create another thread then update all 8 other threads just to let people know that he updated the original thread. That, in my opinion, crosses the line into spam.

Its an interesting discussion though, despite the way hes spamming it across the internet. I do fundamentally disagree with this therapy though. In theory, it sounds solid, but you can never really minimize anxiety to the point of non-existence. How much anxiety you have, is never the essential problem..its that you choose to use anxiety to motivate and battle this problem. You can't get 'rid' of something thats simply a technique you use to change SA. You have to switch the technique, not work on ways to stop the only technique your mind believes will work.

Marlene said:

First of all, Jacky taled me that he is a man???? Why are you saying she????
Second of all he has asked me money for his therapy in advance (and a lot of money) and i sad no.
I really like his ideas and think it has so much to offer to others but it is to expensive and particulary if you have to give it all in advance.

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Moderators,

Here Marlene is telling us that this "Jacky" character is asking members of the Social Phobia World for money. Isn't this against the membership rules of SPW? I have been part of many other Web forums, and all of them have specific rules against advertising and performing business on the forum. Apparently Jacky asks member for "a lot of money" upfront. This is immoral behavior and should not be allowed on the forum.

Zipper.

To zipper,
Hi, friend. I remember you. Yes, I have PMed you before, what I wrote is:
“Hi, zipper,
I would like to talk to you. Do you have a msn account or could you tell me what kind of messenger you are using?"

Your answer:
"Hi Jacky,
I would like to talk. But I don't have any kind of instant message think. I guess I'm technologically clueless. Would you like to chat by PM's? I also have an e-mail address. Would you care to let me know what you desire to talk about? "

Actually once I chanced to see your reply to another post, talking about the effect of CBT, and it seems working on you, but it never worked on me before. So I want to know more about the CBT treatment in USA, so that's why I PMed you for chatting, and It was also my mistake not replying to you in time, sincerely sorry for that. I am always so busy, and I can only come to this forum in my spare time, as you may know, English is not my mother tongue, so replying to a post or a question will take a much longer time that native speakers, since it is not you who asked for help from me first and it also seems that CBT has positive effects on you, I guess maybe you don’t really need my help, so I just spent my limited time in replying to those questions from some friends who are anxious for help or what’s more, I think our talking is not an important one and it does not matter if I delay it, so I delay answering your message, sorry for my carelessness, I failed to understand your anxiety for talking and I should have replied to you earlier. And like you said, I don’t do well in replying to those people who have read my threads, but when I saw those friends replying to my thread, I have an irresistible urge to help them, but I only have limited time and English is not my mother tongue, so I can only try my best, sometimes when I finished an reply and found it didn’t well express what I mean, I would correct it over and over again. Sometimes I would read the reply for an hour , trying to understand what it really means. Here I just want to tell those people who have read my thread and is seeking for help “I am trying my best, although I don’t do it well enough”. I think with my English improved, I can handle my threads and replies much better.

To JamsMorgan,
Thank you for your reminding, In my impression, you are a wise man. Yes, I want to help people, but I don’t know how to do it skillfully in a large forum and I have no experience in doing this.. Because I am completely cured by this therapy, so I am eager to make it known to more and more people, it is good to see that people feel comfortable when they read my post. And you are right, my eagerness cause me to do something wrong or annoying, I will pay attention to that. And I may ask you for advice later. About the payment problem, I did suggest some people to join in Heixi Therapy, Marlene is one of them, because I myself once paid and join in Heixi Therapy and get complete recovered, and then I realized it was a real cure, so I join Heixi counseling center. That was my experience, at first, I also wanted to recover by reading Mr. Heixi's articles, but I found I was unable to handle it myself because of the severity of my condition, I needed continuous guidance and correcting according to my personal situation and symptom, and I was eager to recover as soon as possible to start a new life. Therefore I will suggest some persons with the similar situation to join in Heixi Therapy, I remember I have mentioned it in my other posts before, if they felt interested, I would give them a detailed introduction of the procedure, payment and effect guarantee, furthermore, I am not the payment receiver. I can only try my best to help people here, but bad personality is not formed in one day, and cannot be eliminated in one day, I never hide anything, what I post here is the essence of Heixi Therapy, but they are only general descriptions, I can only state commonness rather than individuality according to every person here, so sometimes counseling by professional therapist according to your personal problem is a must if the condition is severe enough. That’s was my experience.

To Marlene,
Hi, girl, we used to have pleasant talk, I remember I suggested you to join in Heixi Therapy, you said you felt interested but you didn’t have enough money, I said that was OK, I thanked you for your trust and opinion about our website and I said I would help you myself as much as I could. It felt so good to be trusted by a friend from afar, whether she joined our Heixi Therapy or not. Now I am trying my best to construct a good English website these days. By the way, if you agree, I would like to post our messenger log on the forum, but I need your authorization first. I really don’t want to be considered as a spam bot or a cheater, because trust is the most important thing in this world, especially for a man who wants to be a psycho-counselor.


To cosmosis,
Yeah, you are right, guy, I have done some stupid things. Actually I wanted to make all my articles a series in order to make it convenient for people especially some new comers to read. But it seems that I have got the negative effect, I will pay attention to that and never commit the similar mistake. and now Kinetik has helped me to stickied a special counseling post of Heixi Therapy, and I will post my other articles in that post to avoid causing trouble and inconvenience for others. About the therapy itself, I had the same thought with you before, I would discuss that what you later based on your personal symptom if you felt interested.


One more thing, I am a man, my name is Liu Bin, Jacky is my English name, some friend in this forum has told me that Jacky is a name for girls in England, maybe that’s why I have been considered as a girl. If you want to know more personal information about me, I would like to tell you.

Sorry for everybody in this forum for the trouble caused, I will pay attention later, due to my poor English and the possible time difference, please forgive me if I reply to you not soon enough.

I believe all of the people in this forum are kind-hearted ones, otherwise we wouldn't being suffering from SA. Maybe I have done something wrong, but I was eager to pull you out of this purgatory, I know perfectly well how it feels to stay housebound and be afraid of social situation.

May you recover as soon as possible and enjoy a new life.

Jacky,

What exactly are you charging money for? What are you selling? How much are you selling it for? If you are sending people articles for money, then why not give it to them for free? If you care about people and the info you are providing is worth having, then why not just send it to people for free? Why make money off of other people?

If you are providing psychological services, do you have a license? I know that you have to be locally licensed to provide psychological services in my jurisdiction. Is it ethical to de diagnosing and treating patients that you have never met and never seen? I'm pretty sure that this is against ethical rules in my area.

I still don't think that what you're doing here is proper. Your activities and intentions are not clear. Do you only ask people to pay you by PM? How come you don't tell people in your posts that you are selling something?

Again, I don't think that the moderators here should allow this forum to be used by people conducting business. If you were a psychologist volunteering your wisdom to people here that would be a different matter.

Zipper.

I like your mother.

i believe heixi!there r just some misunderstanding