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Old 09-25-2016
 

Does anyone have any advice for this? Literally everyone I've asked so far have said the same thing: "There are plenty of more women in the world." For me, I feel like that isn't valid. Since I'm sure the majority of you reading this have some type of hyperhidrosis, how have relationships been for you?

I'm only 18, and have only had the courage to ask out a few women. My first relationship was last year. I had always been so shy, nervous when it came to being next to a girl. I didn't want them to see my abnormal characteristics accompanied by hypherhidrosis. That relationship lasted about 5 months, it was an online one. We had planned to meet since she was about 5 hours away, but it never came to be.

I was torn after being dumped then. I couldn't get her out of my mind, kept thinking about her, crying about her. It took me 6 months just to even be happy again. I would come home from school, and cry myself to sleep, only to be awake all night.

Then, luckily, I had the courage to message some girl that seemed so sweet based on her posts. I complimented her, saying how pretty she was, how contagious her smile was, just how happy she seemed to be. We hit it off. She said she was having a bad week, and had been bedsick. She told me my message meant so much to her, that she loved it. She lived about 3 hours away, although originally from my city. We had talked for about 2 days, literally messaging each other 24/7. So when the weekend approached, she had told me she is coming to my city to visit her grandma, but that we could hang out. I was terrified at first, thinking what will she say if she feels my hands, or seems how much of a mess I am. I wanted to make an excuse, but her personality seemed so sweet. I told her that day about hyperhidrosis, how it has tormented me, had people make fun of me for it, etc. She was so understanding. Said not to worry, and that she would love to hold my hand. It made me so happy knowing someone didn't care, was so willingly accepting.

Pretty much we talked for about 2 weeks, practically dating, but then I had the courage to ask her out. She said yes, and from then, we really took it off. She would want to video chat me 24/7, she said it would help her sleep, it would her help do her homework, everything. Her mom would get upset at that, saying she had no privacy as she would take me everywhere. Occasionally she would come visit, about every 2 weeks, the latest a month. This continued day, after day, until this August. Her mom was having some trouble financially, and opted to move in with her grandma, who is in my city. She was now 20 mins away, and we pretty much did the same. Would hang out whenever she was free, video chat when she had to study/homework, although she couldn't sleep on call with me as she slept with her mom.

Everything seemed so well, until around August 30th. She said I had been too controlling, hurtful, etc. We were going through a rough stretch, basically having arguments every couple days. They never seemed too big, as everything would seem okay after 30 mins. I would always ask her if she was okay, and she would say yes. But no, she told me when she broke up with me that the arguments were piling up, it was hurting her. I would just apologize after an argument, and apologize that night incase. She would always tell me don't bring it up, so I would just think she's fine, I shouldn't concern myself about it. I told her that day that I was sorry, I didn't know it was to this point in the relationship, she never seemed to be upset; always happy just talking to me, being with me. I had told her I can't do this again, it was so painful, even more painful this time than the past relationship because she was perfect. I had been able to spend time with her in person to know she actually loved me. Foolish of me, everything coming so soon, I had said I would die from this. Basically a few days later, she said that I was the best boyfriend she's ever had, and that excluding the past month of arguing, I was amazing to her. So she said she didn't want to be older, regretting not giving me another chance.

So being more cautious, I would carefully watch what I would say. Never trying to upset her; trying to change for her. Everything seemed great, basically like when just met, but then a few arguments came. Not from my end, but she seemed to get sassy lately. That Sunday, she witnessed her sister attempting suicide by hanging, so I knew what she was going through. I had stayed up all night with her for countless nights, not studying a bit for one of the most important dates in my semester at college. I had a lab practical, and lecture exam on the same day for a class; 15% of my total grade reliant on on day. We had gotten in a minor argument though that Tuesday, she had met some friends in school, and had been texting them all day while we were video chatting. I had not been used to that, so I did say like you could at least finish your sentence before texting... She seemed upset, and said well I'm sorry for finding good friends, and you not being happy about that. So I apologized saying I didn't mean it in any way, it just ticked me off, seemed rude to stop mid-sentence to text someone. She had said it was okay, that she was sorry for being a ****, that she would be upset if I had done the same. That Tuesday night she seemed so happy with me, she sent me wedding pictures, smiling every time she sent one, saying that would be us. So came along Wednesday, she told me earlier in the day that she was writing assignments she's missing. I told her send me a picture, so that I can remind you to do it (she likes to watch videos on YT/Fb for countless hours) so I figured to remind her then. I wanted her to catch up so that she wouldn't stress with school & her sister's situation. She said no, I'm doing my hw. You don't need the picture, I don't need you to remind me. So I kind of took that the wrong way, and became to be more pursuant in getting the pictures. I said look, your phone is there, you were literally just texting your friends, and I didn't say this, but I wanted to; "how can you sit there and complain about doing your hw & you're texting..." I kept my mouth shut, but later said look, it takes 5 seconds, I just want to help you. She seemed so mad. She angrily took the picture. Then she wouldn't look at me, nor say a word. I asked her if she was mad, and she said no. I knew she was, she had a low tone, and wouldn't look at me. I muted my mic to not tick her off even more, and I unmuted it after 30 mins, asking her if she's feeling any better and wanted to talk. She said yes, but she still seemed mad. I waited another 30 mins, then the same scenario. I told her, look how can you expect me to tell you how I honestly feel, if you can't do it. You're obviously upset, and I just want to make sure I don't make the same mistake as last time and throw it off like it's nothing. I told her I'm worried that you will break up with me if you don't tell me how you really feel every time, I just want honesty so that I can be supportive. She broke down, saying she felt bad and didn't want me to have the fear of her breaking up with me. She, again, said sorry for being a ****. She said she needed to go on a walk so that she could feel better. She said she would video chat me when she came back. I waited about an hour, then saw she went active on Fb, so I tried calling her. No answer. I got worried, and quickly drove to her house. Her grandma told me she just went on a walk, so I went and ran to find her. I had looked for an hour, but never saw her. I came back to her house & saw her near the car. She saw me soaking in sweat, I had ran for an hour to find her. She immediately asked if I was okay, and I said yes, I just wanted to make sure you were. You logged on Fb and didn't answer my call, I was worried. She said she thought she messaged me back, but I never got anything. I was like look, I love you, I'm willing to do anything, whether that means come incase something was wrong, or give a kidney to you. So everything seemed okay, she told me she loved me, and willingly gave me kisses. I asked her if I should worry about her breaking up with me after that, and she said no. I kept asking to make sure, but she kept saying no. She did however said to give her a day, she needed some alone time. I waited until Thursday afternoon. She had said I could call her around 6pm, so I did. She had that low tone again when she picked up, she had told me she's been on a 2 hour walk, thinking about things. I just sat there and asked her the general, how did she sleep, how was her day, did she have any plans, etc. She answered, but still had that tone. She then insisted we video chat, that she had something to tell me. I became worried. My heart froze. So I video chatted her, then she just said, I don't think it's working out. That she's going through a lot, etc. I told her wait a minute, don't do this, let me come over and talk it through. So she agreed. I came and we walked, and she basically told me it in my face now. I broke down. I couldn't handle it. Just that Tuesday, she had sent wedding pictures, she seemed so happy. I said what is it then? I know you're going through a lot with your sister, and I have been supportive, if you need time until that resolves itself, then let's take a break and come back later. She said no, we're done, forever. It hit me so much harder. Foolish of me, again, I told her I couldn't live without her. That I would die. She said sorry, have a wonderful life, and goodbye. She walked away from me kneeling on the ground. I got so mad, and said, "I hope you visit me on my funeral." She deleted me practically from every social media. I messaged her later that night, about how sorry I was about saying that death thing, and that I didn't mean it - it just came so unexpectedly and hit me so hard. I thanked her for everything, everything she opened my eyes to. She replied saying "Thank you, Jonathan, I'm glad I opened you up to many experiences." I noticed she never deleted my mom, and sister on Fb. She doesn't have many friends, about 30 on Fb, so I was like why does she still have them added... It gave me hope, so I went through Friday like a mess in school. I cried during my entire lecture, and couldn't go to tutoring. I messaged her Saturday morning, asking her the real reason she left me. She never answered. So I called her, and I asked the usually things. How she was, how her sister was, etc. Then I said could you meet me at the park? I want to talk things out. She agreed, so I went there immediately. We talked, she said I relied too much on her to be happy. She said I wasn't happy with her. To look at me, crying on the floor, begging her to come back. I told her I can't just let go of the past 6 months, that it was the best in my life, and because I love you so much. I never really had friends due to hyperhidrosis, so that's what she meant by I relied on her for happiness. That my negativity was rubbing off on her. I always would tell her I'm not perfect; told her my sad stories of people in a church, in school, etc making fun of me for my hyperhidrosis. It scarred me.

(I didn't say this, but we were both in the darkness when we met. We relied on each other to be happy. She had a miserable childhood, her dad who was in the marines killed himself when she was 7, she was raped a few times, and blackmailed. She told me she felt so safe with me, and in return, I felt so happy with her - being able to help her.)

I had messaged some friends that Friday night, and told my parents I need to get therapy to help me with this. So I told her that there, that I can change; I am willing to change. That I am going to start hanging out with friends, go to therapy to make me feel happy about myself. She just said no, that I'm the best boyfriend she's had, but that she has to let me go. So I begged her, holding on to her, telling her I would do anything for another chance. To show her I love her; to spoil her with love. She became angry, saying move on, let it go, and that if I kept holding onto her that she would tell her mom to call the police. I stopped then. Fortunately - I didn't mention anything about suicide this time.

And now we're here, on Sunday. I haven't slept but 10 hours since Thursday. Have only ate 3 times. Have cried my soul out. She still has my mom, sister added, so a part of me feels like she'll come back, but then I feel like I messed up too big. I feel horrible, scared I will never find anyone as great as her. I keep thinking, remembering that scene, thinking what if I had stayed silent. Would she still be with me?

Is there any advice you would give me? Do you think I am to blame for everything?
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Old 09-29-2016
 

The only positive thing I got from this post was that you're 18 years old.

Follow these few tips:

1) Prioritize your time efficiently:

Learn to prioritize things such as school, family, friend, love interest, etc. Right now school should be #1 along with your family. Dating is a new experience to you so you're emphasizing it too much atm. Take a step back and let things NATURALLY flow. Prioritize school and make time in between for your family and friends. Do nice things for people. Friends, family, even strangers WITHOUT expecting anything in return. This will make you feel good about yourself. This will make others feel like you care about them and that is what they will remember about you when they think about you. This will also improve your self-esteem.

After you do all this... THEN think about maybe chatting up a girl. Let things happen organically. Don't give a girl you just met all of your time. It's YOUR time, tell her you have to go and work on other things in life. Tell her that 'This was great and that you'd be happy to talk later when you're more available.'

Balance your day with various things. Hobbies, I'm serious have hobbies dude. Maybe you like fixing cars, going bike riding, reading, or doing creative stuff. Find a few things you like doing and make time for it. Also, make time for your family. Be a part of family events and make sure you have a presence in your household. Try to maintain good relationship with family members. They are the ones that (hopefully) will be part of your life forever. Girls come and go. Make time for school as I already said and build your career. Everyone at age 30 wishes they did more at age 20. Live a life of no regrets.

A person you're dating will respect you more if they see that you actually have a life. That others want to be in your life. That others rely on you. This is a desirable trait. It also shows maturity and that you're in control of your life. Do you know how ridiculously attractive an ambitious man who got his shit together is?

2) Don't have huge expectation when you date someone:

Do not go into dating with huge expectations. Keep in mind that the other person is not your property and is able to make their own decisions. The only actions you can control are your own actions.

Build upon your character. Learn to control your emotions. Stop, pause, breathe, think before you speak. Let me tell you a secret about apologies, they mean nothing if you DO NOT ADDRESS what you're apologizing for. Apologizing once is enough.

Don't beg, do not apologize 1000x, learn to have some self respect for yourself. Begging on your knees is the most unattractive thing I can think of atm. If girl is adamant on leaving, then let her part ways. You don't have to forget about her but you have to come to terms that your actions may have had consequences that shaked the foundation of the relationship too much. People also grow apart. This is natural human behavior. People change over the course of time and sometimes just want to move on.

2) Combat your insecurities, have a long term plan:

Recognize what you're insecure about. Maybe it's your body image? If so, you can try trying new hairstyle and try new clothing styles. Look up online and see some fashion trends you admire. Something you can adopt for yourself if need be. Maybe you can start working out to FEEL good inside and outside. Good diet, exercise, and sleep not only makes you look better it also keeps you level headed and helps you control your emotions. It's not all about muscles. But if you want to look lean and healthy you got to put in the work and exercise. I'd recommend exercising at least 3x week. Find a program that suits you and create goals for yourself.

As for your hyperhidrosis. Take the time to plan out and TRY things to improve your situation. If you have Hyperhidrosis there are quite a few treatment options you can try depending on what HH you have.

Iontophoresis, Oral medication, Botox, etc. If you're overweight or unhealthy, again exercising and reaching your ideal wait can help out a lot. Do the easy stuff first and then move on to other forms a medication / treatment options.

There is no cure for Hyperhidrosis yet. We can only treat it, we're all in the same boat.

Don't let HH define you and make you hate yourself. You have to learn how to love yourself. Once you learn to love yourself. It'll be easier for OTHERS to like you as well. It'll be easier to open up and make new friends, girlfriends, and just be more sociable. People will want you as a part of your life.

2) Learn to socialize better:

Take part in clubs, extra curriculum activities, sporting events, anything. In order to meet people you have to put yourself out there and try new things.

DO NOT LET HYPERHIDROSIS CONTROL YOUR LIFE.

DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO THINK YOU ARE LESS THAN SOMEONE ELSE.

By trying new things you can learn what you like. You might meet people who like what you like. And that's attractive. Those type of interests help you become more attractive to other people because you actually share the same interests as other potential girls.

Don't just get with any girl who accepts you because you have HH like you're inferior. There are no limits to who you can chat up. But if HH is in your way you can first try treating it to get some control in your life. This can be a long process so you just have to be strong and willing to keep trying new things until you find what works for you.

Peace
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Old 09-30-2016
 

Well said Phantom9
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Old 10-21-2016
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom9 View Post
The only positive thing I got from this post was that you're 18 years old.

Follow these few tips:

1) Prioritize your time efficiently:

Learn to prioritize things such as school, family, friend, love interest, etc. Right now school should be #1 along with your family. Dating is a new experience to you so you're emphasizing it too much atm. Take a step back and let things NATURALLY flow. Prioritize school and make time in between for your family and friends. Do nice things for people. Friends, family, even strangers WITHOUT expecting anything in return. This will make you feel good about yourself. This will make others feel like you care about them and that is what they will remember about you when they think about you. This will also improve your self-esteem.

After you do all this... THEN think about maybe chatting up a girl. Let things happen organically. Don't give a girl you just met all of your time. It's YOUR time, tell her you have to go and work on other things in life. Tell her that 'This was great and that you'd be happy to talk later when you're more available.'

Balance your day with various things. Hobbies, I'm serious have hobbies dude. Maybe you like fixing cars, going bike riding, reading, or doing creative stuff. Find a few things you like doing and make time for it. Also, make time for your family. Be a part of family events and make sure you have a presence in your household. Try to maintain good relationship with family members. They are the ones that (hopefully) will be part of your life forever. Girls come and go. Make time for school as I already said and build your career. Everyone at age 30 wishes they did more at age 20. Live a life of no regrets.

A person you're dating will respect you more if they see that you actually have a life. That others want to be in your life. That others rely on you. This is a desirable trait. It also shows maturity and that you're in control of your life. Do you know how ridiculously attractive an ambitious man who got his shit together is?

2) Don't have huge expectation when you date someone:

Do not go into dating with huge expectations. Keep in mind that the other person is not your property and is able to make their own decisions. The only actions you can control are your own actions.

Build upon your character. Learn to control your emotions. Stop, pause, breathe, think before you speak. Let me tell you a secret about apologies, they mean nothing if you DO NOT ADDRESS what you're apologizing for. Apologizing once is enough.

Don't beg, do not apologize 1000x, learn to have some self respect for yourself. Begging on your knees is the most unattractive thing I can think of atm. If girl is adamant on leaving, then let her part ways. You don't have to forget about her but you have to come to terms that your actions may have had consequences that shaked the foundation of the relationship too much. People also grow apart. This is natural human behavior. People change over the course of time and sometimes just want to move on.

2) Combat your insecurities, have a long term plan:

Recognize what you're insecure about. Maybe it's your body image? If so, you can try trying new hairstyle and try new clothing styles. Look up online and see some fashion trends you admire. Something you can adopt for yourself if need be. Maybe you can start working out to FEEL good inside and outside. Good diet, exercise, and sleep not only makes you look better it also keeps you level headed and helps you control your emotions. It's not all about muscles. But if you want to look lean and healthy you got to put in the work and exercise. I'd recommend exercising at least 3x week. Find a program that suits you and create goals for yourself.

As for your hyperhidrosis. Take the time to plan out and TRY things to improve your situation. If you have Hyperhidrosis there are quite a few treatment options you can try depending on what HH you have.

Iontophoresis, Oral medication, Botox, etc. If you're overweight or unhealthy, again exercising and reaching your ideal wait can help out a lot. Do the easy stuff first and then move on to other forms a medication / treatment options.

There is no cure for Hyperhidrosis yet. We can only treat it, we're all in the same boat.

Don't let HH define you and make you hate yourself. You have to learn how to love yourself. Once you learn to love yourself. It'll be easier for OTHERS to like you as well. It'll be easier to open up and make new friends, girlfriends, and just be more sociable. People will want you as a part of your life.

2) Learn to socialize better:

Take part in clubs, extra curriculum activities, sporting events, anything. In order to meet people you have to put yourself out there and try new things.

DO NOT LET HYPERHIDROSIS CONTROL YOUR LIFE.

DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO THINK YOU ARE LESS THAN SOMEONE ELSE.

By trying new things you can learn what you like. You might meet people who like what you like. And that's attractive. Those type of interests help you become more attractive to other people because you actually share the same interests as other potential girls.

Don't just get with any girl who accepts you because you have HH like you're inferior. There are no limits to who you can chat up. But if HH is in your way you can first try treating it to get some control in your life. This can be a long process so you just have to be strong and willing to keep trying new things until you find what works for you.

Peace
Question for Phantom9 : do you really have HH?
When you are sweating you wont feel good inside or outside despite if you would have new haircut, new clothes or even if you would be the richest or prettiest guy in the world. REMEMBER PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT and i can tell you that working out is not always good thing - sometimes it can harm your health.
Can you tell me which parts of your body are effected by extensive sweating and from which temperature does it starts?
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Old 12-22-2016
 

Yes I do have HH. I have Palmar and Plantar HH. I had it since I was 6. I never got a solution for it until I was basically 27. That was literally the ONLY time I had walked outside one day and realized I did not sweat for 24 hours straight.

I started taking 2mg Glycopyrrolate around that time, once a day. It's been more than 2 since then. I turn 30 next month. So you do the math. That's elementary, highschool, college, work, etc. That's a lot of dating years. All throughout school I soaked my test papers. I avoid contact with girls / women if I was sweating too much (especially in the summer). I would rate my HH a 8/10 on scale of badness. People like us generally sweat nonstop throughout the day / night. However, with no cure or treatment. I learned how to control it to some extent mentally. Mind over matter. There are time this will never work. There are other times where you can stop / reduce it before it begins. HH is a systemic disease. It's 100% natural to our bodies and just naturally occurs. It takes a lot of mental fortitude to calm down and control our sweating.

Yoga, eating healthy, working out, finding peace within ourselves 100% does help reduce overall sweating. YES you will still sweat but I promise you it helps.

As for temperature, anything over room temperature will trigger a pretty bad HH for me. Bad enough where I don't want to make hand contact with anyone. I would literally wash their hands with my sweat. It won't stop sweating either unless I try to calm myself down and forget about the sweating. Then it eventually chills out a bit.

Believe it our not our anxiety makes our sweating worse. At the moment, I don't give a shit about my sweating. Mostly because if it was really bother me I would just take Glycopyrrolate (Avert).

The fact I have a treatment at all makes me not care anymore. I have an option. When I had NO treatment I still tried not to care that much. What can you do? We sweat, we have to learn to love ourselves. I'm not going to lie it bothered me then. Even though I was objective, I wanted a good treatment that would help me when I needed it most. Events, job interviews, first dates, etc. But again, the fact that we have SOME solution is better than nothing.

I hope you find some level of treatment. Glycopyrrolate works 95% effectively for me. I don't think about sweating anymore. I haven't in years. It only matters to me around late spring / summer or events.

Here's an update:

It's winter here where I live now. I haven't taken Glycopyrrolate for 3 months. The 50 pill bottle I had has like 35 in it still. It's been like that for months. It's colder so I don't need as much. Yes I sweat. The combination of getting older and having treatment option has made me sweat less in general. Anxiety makes your sweating worse. So does the weather. If it's hot sweating is mostly unavoidable. If it's room temperature or lower I can mostly control my sweating mentally.

Finally,

Working out is good for you. Unless you have health issues, working out isn't really a choice. Your body is designed to move. If you don't move or eat properly then the quality of life goes down. It goes hand and hand. Our physiology is just designed like that.

Even walking is enough to keep you in decent shape. If you drive all day and live life lethargically, and are sedentary mostly, change that. You don't have to run. Just walk more, do anaerobic exercise to strengthen muscles. Do Yoga or stretch to improve elasticity. Do cardio or play sports to get moving. You don't have to run for 1hr. HIT cardio is great, you just need to raise your heart rate up and get your heart working. HIT cardio is said to be more effective than running for 1 hour.

Eating a more balanced diet and avoiding high sugar, too much dairy, excess amount of fried / process foods has a DIRECT EFFECT on your sweating. It also has a direct effect on your mental and physical health.

Think positively, love yourself, build your confidence. Women will eventually be easy to you. there are over 3.5 billion women out there bro. Stop stressing out you'll find one. Just work on yourself for now.
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Old 12-22-2016
 

Phantom, I'm glad you have a positive tone to your message. All I can say is I don't agree that diet or exercise will have the effect it has had on you. I've done each and can say neither had anything to do with my palmar plantar or full body summer sweats.

I do believe that diet and exercise can do wonders until it doesn't as in my life experience. I'm in my upper 50's now. HH got really bad by age 6. Ionto is my savior when it works. It can work quite well for long periods of time and at other times not as well. When my hands first started to get dry from treatments in 2005 I noticed stress was reduced drastically. Exercise was always great for stress and I preached about for years until the opposite effect started occurring. So you see, I experienced each side of the exercise/diet debacle. One doesn't or can't truly comprehend the other side of the equation unless it's happening to you or someone you love.

With luck, you will hopefully not experience this negative side. Who would believe that vitamins, supplements can harm you? They can. Not all these things work for everyone just as ionto will not work for everyone.

Positive thinking works to a point, unless your body decides that now you are going to have unknown anxiety (GAD) or depression. It's great to be against medication until you find that now you need it. Positive thinking only goes so far when something changes within your body and your brain has other plans. I'm just pointing out food for thought, another point of view that you might not quite understand.

Despite HH and whatever else someone has I do believe that anyone can find love if they just believe they can despite whatever physical or mental problems one might have. I've proved that for me. Despite horrible HH I had a life and somehow dealt with my sweating the best way I could. It wasn't easy and at times felt like torture. But, diet nor exercise never and I say never had a direct effect on MY HH. I was dealt with a defective nervous system like a lot of us on here that would keep my body in fight and flight mode.

Despite my ramblings, I do like your first posting above and believe it was well worded. I might not agree with it all and that's ok. If one has horrible HH and they believe they'll never meet someone... so be it. Then it's time to seek some a mental health professional.
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Old 12-25-2016
 

Yes, I agree.

It's insane how much the mental aspect effects the whole bodies mood / outlook in life. You have to try to remain positive. Personally, I'm struggling with hairloss atm. I'm balding on certain parts of my head (scalp exposed, large balding area in the fronal / center of head). I don't really look good bald haha. So I'm fighting hairloss head on atm. I think I'm doing a pretty good job so far. I read up as much as I can and all the treatment / dangers etc.

So far I feel pretty optimistic. I'm confident I can at least regrow some of the hair I lost in the last year. I also have a ridiculous amount of hair left. But I want to cut my hair, if I do I'll lose the coverage I got so I'm trying to give my hair a few months to see if i respond well to treatment.

Some people have no hair and have no hope of gaining their back.

My whole point is you have to be positive. I'm at peace with myself even though the prospect of being bald would really hurt my confidence. I work out to make myself feel better about my self image, to be healthy, and to obviously look more attractive.

I don't totally love myself. But I won't stop trying to be my best.
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Old 12-26-2016
 

We all seem to silently be battling something. I had a xmas party at my house Friday. What's the odds of meeting two cancer survivors. One was stage 3, the stage 4. Both are in remission. Talk about miracles. Both expressed a pretty healthy attitude.

Happy Holidays to everyone!
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